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Panic? The Left's fivethirtyeight.com has McCain at 289 and Obama at 249 in electoral votes today.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ ^

Posted on 09/15/2008 7:35:16 AM PDT by HD1200

ABC did a segment on this pollster of pollsters a few weeks back. In reading the comments it appears most of those paying attention to him are from the left. They are getting very irate now that his electoral votes have switched from Obama leading to McCain leading.

(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; mccainpalin
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To: RetSignman
You couldn’t be a paperboy and become head of the circulation dept. in 143 days

Hey, I was a paperboy and there is a lot more accountability and discipline required to be a paperboy than to be a community organizer, or an elected official.

Has Obama ever had a real JOB?

21 posted on 09/15/2008 8:13:39 AM PDT by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: Jim Noble
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and listen to the lamentations of their women!

I presume you're referring to Keith Olbermann.   ;-)

22 posted on 09/15/2008 8:17:28 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: HD1200

funny thing about the fivethirtyeight website is that I read a real lefty blog here in Miami and these guys have been pushing fivethirtyeight as the only reliable site for polling data.


23 posted on 09/15/2008 8:18:11 AM PDT by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

“a very close follow-up reason is to watch the fall-out, the melt-down, the anguish, the despair, the incredulous misery, the ranting and wailing and howling frenzy of the liberals. The gnashing of teeth. The rending of clothes. So sweet, their tears. All that.” A_perfect_lady

WOW! You are perfect! Love your post!!!! So sweet their tears! LOL!!!


24 posted on 09/15/2008 8:20:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Fishrrman

Yes, it’s been a long time since the losing side was able to accept the winner in a presidential election. Campaigns are, by their nature, divisive, since they’re based on issues we disagree about. But they shouldn’t be war by other means. Some of the comments on this board about post-election gloating make me wonder whether it’s becoming that way. To quote Churchill, we should be magnanimous in victory.


25 posted on 09/15/2008 8:31:15 AM PDT by TroutFishingInAmerica ("I remember, with particular amusement, men in three-cornered hats, fishing in the dawn")
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To: Centurion2000

26 posted on 09/15/2008 8:31:53 AM PDT by Keith (McCain-Palin Get off your duff and work to get them elected!)
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To: TroutFishingInAmerica
Well Said. In 2004, I went to Drudge Report in late afternoon on Election Day and vomited in my mouth after seeing the INS polls.

5 Hours Later I was giddy but reserved after realizing we dodged the John Kerry Bullet.

This year we should be grateful for the God Send called Sara Palin.

27 posted on 09/15/2008 8:41:12 AM PDT by Wilder Effect
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To: RobFromGa

Yeah, I was paperboy also and you are correct and NO he hasn’t had a real job, just like bro Jesse Jackson and all the other agitators.


28 posted on 09/15/2008 8:49:01 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: KarlInOhio

538.com also foresees that a McPalin landslide (17% probability)
is 3 times as likely as an Obiden landslide (less than 6 %).


29 posted on 09/15/2008 8:57:48 AM PDT by Eleutherios (The All-American Team vs. The Teleprompter Kid)
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To: KarlInOhio

538.com also foresees that a McPalin landslide (17% probability)
is 3 times as likely as an Obiden landslide (less than 6 %).


30 posted on 09/15/2008 8:58:41 AM PDT by Eleutherios (The All-American Team vs. The Teleprompter Kid)
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To: GWB00

Yup, lefty dweebs absoultely thwear by that site. Now the Princeton election consortium seems to be where they’ll make thier last stand from reality, lol.


31 posted on 09/15/2008 8:59:30 AM PDT by A Boy Made Of Win
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To: KarlInOhio

Most people see McCain as a maverick and don’t as closely relate him to Bush as they do other Republicans.

The actual Bush haters are hard core liberals that will vote Obama no matter what.

Many others, including me are disappointed with President Bush, but I by no means hate him. My feelings about President Bush have nothing to do with my voting for McCain/Palin. I am disappointed that he would not stand up to the liberals for his policies and actions. I am disappointed that he did not as I see it “take charge” in the War on Terror and in many ways tried to make it a PC war to placate the dems. I am disappointed that he does not see the truth about the border issues (he is not alone in that unfortunately). I do give full credit to President Bush for leading us out of the darkness of September 11th, and for staying on top of terrorism so that we have not had a major attack since that day. I think President Bush has overall been a decent President but I think he had the opportunity to be a great one and that is the basis of most of my disappointment.

I don’t know if McCain will be a great President, I do not agree with McCain on some issues, especially on the border issues. The truth is I am convinced Obama as President would be the worst thing that could happen to us. He is wrong for the military, he is wrong for conservatives, and wrong for this country. I think many see a vote for McCain as a vote to save this country from Obama and his ilk.


32 posted on 09/15/2008 9:03:52 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Fishrrman
Look at the electoral vote map at the linked page in this article. The country is becoming truly “divided”: a “red core” vis-a-vis three “blue fringe” areas. The divisions that exist between them are far greater than “electoral” - these divisions are at the deepest cultural and philosophical levels. As such, they represent a diametrically-opposed vision of what America was, is, and should become. And increasingly, the rancor between “the Red and the Blue” seems to be all-but unbridgeable. What happened the LAST time the country was so divided?

It's time to clean house. The red states can easily reject the blue states and re-create the America of our founding fathers. This "renewed" America would have all or the vast majority of the oil, agriculture manufacturing, and nuclear weapons, and the "old" Amerrika would be impotent to stop the change because of their pledge to “non-violence” (there is nothing that they will go to war over). They can talk all they want, and we’ll sit down with them any time they want, but it will simply go in one ear and out the other.

Since “old” Amerrika punitively taxes those who work hard and succeed, and most of them will immigrate to “renewed” America, their governmental coffers will soon be empty, causing them to revert to the third world status championed by their political idols. We’ll help hasten that result by gladly allowing all the able bodied who want to live on welfare to cross the border into the adjacent “old” Amerrika. In just a few years, most of the blue states will be begging to be allowed to join “renewed” America. Any state from “old” Amerrika can join only if they purge themselves of the Communists, anarchists, and other America haters.

Political Correctness will no longer rule, and hard work will be rewarded. Some may call this callous and uncaring, but it is the exact same philosophy as AA and other successful addition fighting organizations. Amerrika is addicted to the money taken from the hard working and given to the lazy and ungrateful. This has to be broken, and those who will be affect by being cut off will bellow and scream, but, if I may borrow a quote from my parents, “If you put half the effort you use to get out of work into working, you’d be a millionaire.”

33 posted on 09/15/2008 9:05:30 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: A_perfect_lady
But a very close follow-up reason is to watch the fall-out, the melt-down, the anguish, the despair, the incredulous misery, the ranting and wailing and howling frenzy of the liberals. The gnashing of teeth. The rending of clothes. So sweet, their tears. All that.

Especially when they realize that a portion of the McCain voters came from the democrat blue collar workers
34 posted on 09/15/2008 9:10:13 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Bobkk47

Popcorn party!!!! Sounds like a great idea!!! I will go out and get some more popcorn and watch the numbers goes up for McCain/Palin!!!


35 posted on 09/15/2008 9:10:20 AM PDT by NorCoGOP ((borrowed from another Freeper) "They have Obama...we have Oh! MAMA!")
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To: HD1200

There is a graphic on the lower right side with poll detail. Basically this takes all the polls taken in each state and determines whether it is safe, likely, or lean Dem or GOP. There are a lot of Safe GOP states, but the only safe Dem states are: RI, DC, and VT. Illinois, California, MASS! are all Likely Dem, among others. If this keeps up, Cali and NY will be the new swing states.


36 posted on 09/15/2008 9:24:21 AM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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To: HD1200

Why was fivethirtyeight.com characterized as “left”? Is that just an opinion or is there some evidence behind that characterization?


37 posted on 09/15/2008 9:41:44 AM PDT by Homer the Hun
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To: Fishrrman
The country is becoming truly “divided”: a “red core” vis-a-vis three “blue fringe” areas.

There are actually fifty red states and about twenty bright blue cities. The problem seems to be city-dwellers thinking they need to rewrite Federal law to mirror what exists in their dense urban areas. If they ever come to understand that the President doesn't need to talk and act like the local thug boss, the Democrats are in very big trouble.

38 posted on 09/15/2008 10:19:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Homer the Hun

Why are they characterized as “left”? Because in my post I indicated ABC News did a segment on them a few weeks back. Certainly you would have to agree that if Charlie Gibson’s network pays attention to a pollster, it must be one they agree with......

It is,oops, was, a poll often cited over at DU.


39 posted on 09/15/2008 10:59:31 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: Jim Noble; brownsfan

Yes. The lamentations of the women. I forgot about the lamentations of the women. I like lamentations.


40 posted on 09/15/2008 11:26:48 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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