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Obama Up By 7 in "Leaning" Oregon? Look at sampling though.
Hoffman Research Group ^ | 9-9-08 | Hoffman

Posted on 09/14/2008 11:57:44 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary

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Oversampled Dems by 11 pts. Help me out with what this means.
1 posted on 09/14/2008 11:57:45 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary

If they need to oversample to get their desired result...I’d say we are probably ahead. The gap is closing in Washington so Oregon’s should be also.


2 posted on 09/14/2008 12:00:07 PM PDT by 1035rep (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Anti-Hillary
I think it means they are desperate to create a poll that shows Obama winning somewhere.

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3 posted on 09/14/2008 12:00:33 PM PDT by chaos_5 (See my profile for cool McCain/Palin "lipstick" stickers!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Oregon I'd write off because of Portland and Eugene. The rural hinterland doesn't have enough votes to overcome the edge in the coastal Democratic cities!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/14/2008 12:01:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Agreed....not called the left coast without reason.....


5 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:00 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Anti-Hillary
My guess is this poll, like many others, weights its results according to party identification numbers. Those numbers have favored Dems for a few years, but recently the GOP has been playing catchup and may be close to the Dems now.

This poll does not seem to be accounting for the recent GOP surge, either unintentionally or intentionally.

6 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:43 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: goldstategop

I tell people that Portland is filled with people who thought Berkley was too conservative.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:53 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Anti-Hillary
They have oversampled Republicans in this poll. The current party id in the state is 56%-42% D-R.

http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/votreg/jul08.pdf

8 posted on 09/14/2008 12:04:42 PM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Kind of an old poll.....through 9/9 only?


9 posted on 09/14/2008 12:06:45 PM PDT by bioprof (STRATEGERY!)
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To: Anti-Hillary
If it was a national poll it would be oversampling. This is an Oregon poll, certainly in Oregon there are a higher percentage of Rats vs. the National average. This result is probably in line to Oregon's voting pattern of the last 12 years
10 posted on 09/14/2008 12:07:32 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: goldstategop

I live on the Columbia River about 30 minutes from downtown Portland, Or. and you are exactly right...the hinterlands have trouble with the muster of enough GOP votes. It may happen in Washington state considering that DNC Gov. Gregoire stole the election with Acorn three counting the last time around AND THE FOLKS WERE FURIOUS!! Everyone knew what happened, despite what the MSM was handing out. With luck Washington State may remember and get it right next time.


11 posted on 09/14/2008 12:08:47 PM PDT by cousair
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To: Anti-Hillary
I would guess that the Democrat/Republican breakdown probably accurately reflects the actual registration percentage in the state.

It's Independents who are way under-sampled. I recall reading (and I may be mistaken) that something like 40% of Oregon voters are independent.

McCain/Palin might do better than expected in the Portland suburbs. If they do, it might be very close.

Still a hard road. Even in a McCain landslide, I would expect Oregon to go Obama.

12 posted on 09/14/2008 12:12:01 PM PDT by mojito
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To: DAC21
Yep. Its safely Obama. I wouldn't get up any hopes up of McCain carrying the state. Washington State may be the only Left Coast state to turn purple, largely in reaction to the Christine Grigoire corruption scandal. It hasn't gone for a Republican presidential candidate since Reagan.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 09/14/2008 12:12:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Anti-Hillary
I would be very surprised if Oregon went McCain/Palin. McCain Palin may considerably close the gap on Obama/Biden, but the state is solid blue.
14 posted on 09/14/2008 12:12:41 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: goldstategop

Nonsense. If Washington goes for McCain, Oregon certainly will. Washington is more Democrat than Oregon.


15 posted on 09/14/2008 12:15:07 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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Why does this keep coming up?

There is NO oversampling. There is no undersampling. There is only random sampling. The people self identify as whatever party affiliation they choose when they are RANDOMLY sampled. That many Democrats were in the RANDOM sample. That many GOP and that many Independents.

Oregon’s Dem/GOP/Ind mixture may be exactly what these samples said. Kerry won it by 4% in 2004. Party affiliation moved away from the GOP since then, despite recent gains.

Forget Oregon.


16 posted on 09/14/2008 12:19:11 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Anti-Hillary; blackie; Salvation

“Not unlike most of the nation, McCain fared best in the more rural areas, while Obama enjoyed his strongest support in the more populous cities of Portland and Eugene. The random sample of 600 Oregon voters took into account increased registrations among Democrats, particularly in the Tri-County area. Statewide, the poll surveyed 46% democrats, 35% republicans and 20% unaffiliated voters.”

Conservatives need a ‘get out the vote’ registration effort in Oregon.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: B Knotts

Well, there are extenuating circumstances. The Gov’s election was clearly stolen in 2004 and there are people angry about that. There was some other thing that went down in WA...I think it was a huge tax raise or something along those lines that people were REALLY pissed about.


18 posted on 09/14/2008 12:21:39 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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To: Anti-Hillary
They oversample Dems by 11% because that is probably the way the registration of voters breaks down. I don't think that the 11% oversampling of Dems it too far out of line.

Oregon is NOT going to vote for McCain, so I don't think we need to get excited about McCain's chances there.

Reps need to guard against overconfidence in this race. The Palin phenomenon will fade when the the end of month is here and the “debates” start. Then it will be issues that will matter to people.

19 posted on 09/14/2008 12:21:39 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Anti-Hillary
Oversampled Dems by 11 pts.

Oversampled in national terms, maybe, but did they oversample in Oregonian terms?

20 posted on 09/14/2008 12:23:36 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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