Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 09/14/2008 9:14:56 AM PDT by dascallie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-53 last
To: dascallie

If any of this crap was actually true, you can bet your tukas Hillary would have already used it.


203 posted on 09/14/2008 11:08:51 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

Hillary’s October Surprise?


206 posted on 09/14/2008 11:12:33 AM PDT by BigFinn (isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

I would be delighted if it were true, but I frankly doubt that Kenya even iisues birth certificates to anyone.


224 posted on 09/14/2008 11:45:43 AM PDT by Malesherbes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

Obama is toast anyway.


225 posted on 09/14/2008 11:52:23 AM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

This appears to be total B.S.

First, this person who claims to know that “the GOP” sent someone to search Kenya to find Obama was secretly born there, is a complete political scandal maker who has written a ton of stupid articles like Flight 93 was shot down. He seems to despise John McCain and has many scandals about him on his site as well.

Second, Occam’s razor: a teenage American, pregnant with a controversial baby, is not about to fly to Kenya. I don’t think she would have.

Third, this legal document is full of untruths. If an American marries a foreigner (the Soetero man) and takes her child to go live with him in his land, she is NOT forfeiting her citizenship.

Fourth, the fact that these other countries, Kenya and Indonesia, conferred citizenship on Obama has nothing to do with his American citizenship and does not affect it. (It would if he received those citizenships FIRST, of course, but there is no evidence of that.) Other countries can confer citizenships on whomever they like, and it will not affect that person’s eligibility to hold office here. Otherwise, Achmadinajad (sp?) could confer Iranian citizenship on George W. Bush today and he’d have to step down.

Fifth, traveling on another passport does not affect an American’s citizenship.

The only thing Obama needs to do at all to prove he is fully eligible to be President is to show the country that he is a natural born citizen. His passport shows that he is a citizen; it would take a birth certificate to prove he is a natural one. He needs a certified copy of his birth certificate from Hawaii, and that is it. He should provide it now and shut everyone up.


285 posted on 09/14/2008 2:53:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

This appears to be total B.S.

First, this person who claims to know that “the GOP” sent someone to search Kenya to find Obama was secretly born there, is a complete political scandal maker who has written a ton of stupid articles like Flight 93 was shot down. He seems to despise John McCain and has many scandals about him on his site as well.

Second, Occam’s razor: a teenage American, pregnant with a controversial baby, is not about to fly to Kenya. I don’t think she would have.

Third, this legal document is full of untruths. If an American marries a foreigner (the Soetero man) and takes her child to go live with him in his land, she is NOT forfeiting her citizenship.

Fourth, the fact that these other countries, Kenya and Indonesia, conferred citizenship on Obama has nothing to do with his American citizenship and does not affect it. (It would if he received those citizenships FIRST, of course, but there is no evidence of that.) Other countries can confer citizenships on whomever they like, and it will not affect that person’s eligibility to hold office here. Otherwise, Achmadinajad (sp?) could confer Iranian citizenship on George W. Bush today and he’d have to step down.

Fifth, traveling on another passport does not affect an American’s citizenship.

The only thing Obama needs to do at all to prove he is fully eligible to be President is to show the country that he is a natural born citizen. His passport shows that he is a citizen; it would take a birth certificate to prove he is a natural one. He needs a certified copy of his birth certificate from Hawaii, and that is it. He should provide it now and shut everyone up.


286 posted on 09/14/2008 2:58:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: LucyT; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ..

I’m not getting all fired up about this. I think it’s a wild goose chase, or somehow related to an October Surprise, or (and this one is most likely) wouldn’t make any difference to the dolts and crooks who want him elected. Thanks LucyT.


300 posted on 09/14/2008 10:18:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

for later.


301 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:06 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

obama won his first election by throwing others off the ballot on technicalities. It would be poetic justice if he were thrown off the Presidential ballot on a technicality.


313 posted on 09/15/2008 6:35:53 PM PDT by ChessExpert (If it had been up to Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein would still be in power)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

BTT.


314 posted on 09/15/2008 7:25:55 PM PDT by LucyT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie
Bump.
320 posted on 09/15/2008 9:18:26 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie
Several things. It is alleged that Ed Hale, an avid Hillary supporter, has confirmed that he has in his possession a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama. This was reported by several posts I have read. Ed Hale's site and his radio station have been removed and it is stated that they were shut down for security reasons.

Another posting I came across alleges that Phil Berg would neither confirm nor deny the report and that everything is being kept hushed for security reasons and that Phil Berg will not respond unitl he has had the opportunity to produce such in a hearing.

If the above is true, questions will swirl around the authenticity. I would presume it true, false birth documents will crop up as alleged proof Obama was born in Hawaii and alleged witnesses will be made avaialbe.

The law suit provides little by way of sound evidence except for the alleged dcoument from the Jakarta school. If that document is real, then other questions are raised as to whether Obama is a natural born citizen or a naturlaized citizen , the former making him elligible for Presidency, the latter would not. The arguments in the pleadings and in the last answer provided by Plaitiff Berg are very interesting in that they name a place for the birth. And, it is alleged the hospital name is known.

So there are actually two issues or avenue of attacks: 1. Obama was not born in the States and despite his mother being a citizen, she did not meet the rules for her child to be a citizen; and 2.) He lost natural born citizen status by virtue of the Indonesion citizenship, dual citizenship was not allowable due to the Hague convention rules and then there is no ability to become a natural born citizen thereafter, rather ownly a naturalized citizen.

Finally, Obama stated when applying for the Illinois bar that he never had any aliases. And he indicated publicly that he never was a muslim and never practiced such or studied such. If the Indonesion document is correct, then he lied on his bar application and he lied about his religion which would raise serious questions as to why. My gut is there is something here or Obama would have simply provided what was necessary. As an attorney, I cannot see any benefit from stonewalling, hiding behind legal maneuvering and why it is that he would not want to simply be transparent and end the controversy with the required documentation to prove thaht he meets the requirements to be President of the United States.

336 posted on 10/12/2008 5:49:54 PM PDT by philly ray
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: dascallie

This is a short analysis of Obumbler’s alleged “Certificate of Live Birth” from Hawaii. It is pretty convincing in its finding that it is a fraudulent document.

It is 4 minutes in length and just might change a few skeptical minds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE


338 posted on 10/12/2008 6:10:59 PM PDT by Shady Ray
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-53 last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson