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Crude Oil hits $99.57 on US Market!
Oil-price.net ^ | 9/14/2009 | DGHoodini

Posted on 09/14/2008 8:23:31 AM PDT by DGHoodini

The price of Crude Oil was $99.57 as of 11:15AM EDT today!

And on a Sunday, no less. :oD


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: below; crude; energy; energyprices; gasprices; oil; price
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To: bolobaby
Pretty simplistic analysis based on silly assumptions. Refining operations have been suffering for most of the year - take a look at Valero (VLO: $70+ to $30-) or Tesoro (TSO: $50+ to $15-), with recent IKE related 20% pops. They should be making some profit from supplying us with gasoline, heating oil, diesel, etc., but have been loosing money (EPS going negative) because of the high input cost of crude, and the declining consumption of their product.

Most certainly, a hurricane that tears up a region where 25% of US refining capacity resides will cause refined product prices to go up, duh! And will also cause crude prices to go down - as demand is reduced. Economics 101, not the conjured wizard of OZ, are affecting market prices.

41 posted on 09/14/2008 9:50:41 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: KevinDavis
Sorry the last we had Government controlling big oil was in the 70’s and it didn’t quite work out to well. Unless you prefer that we have big lines and gas rationing.. I suggest that you read the Constitution further.. Than the preamble.

Hey, I may not be able to balance a checkbook, and I may only be able to count to 21 (with my pants off), but one thing I do know is how to set prices on key commodities in a multi-trillion-dollar economy!

42 posted on 09/14/2008 9:50:41 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: DGHoodini

We need more refineries so our gas prices go down as well. Gas is still too damn high!!!


43 posted on 09/14/2008 9:51:32 AM PDT by Force of Truth (Jesus was a homeless guy who came to be crucified, not to become Caesar the tax collector.)
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To: Zauber

Expect refinery pressures from the hurricane to drive retail prices up short-term.


44 posted on 09/14/2008 9:55:38 AM PDT by Humble Servant (SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!)
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To: blu

Hurricanes cost these companies plenty. They are not a welcome event that anyone with real assets on the line cheers about (day traders and speculators might make a quick buck, but they can also take a bath). The companies, executives and employees, do the best they can to minimize damages from these unwelcome events, and get back in operation as quickly as possible. They make their soup bowl by providing product to all of us for extremely low prices.


45 posted on 09/14/2008 10:03:03 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: DGHoodini

And NYMEX RBOB gasoline is down 14 cent a gallon as of 12:21pm today. Guess the refineries haven’t been hit that hard as the speculators are getting the news before we do??


46 posted on 09/14/2008 10:05:08 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: KevinDavis

Costs for transportation will overwhelm the infrequent outages due to unpleasant weather. Next?


47 posted on 09/14/2008 10:06:44 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
...and you are correct (re #29). The transport people, i.e. the brokers that deliver the gasoline via pipeline, storage terminals, and trucking along with commodities speculators are hosing the consumer. Even with NC's 30 cents a gallon tax and the fed's 18.5 cents a gallon tax, that's a 2.63 + 0.50 equaling $3.13 at the pump without delivery and margin.

I've been tracking that difference and it's the middle men to the retail pump hosing us.

Go figure, $3.99 - $3.13 = $0.86 margin per gallon split between 2 middle men and the retailer.....that's more margin than the refiners or the state of NC.

The middle men are doing the gouging, not the refiners.

48 posted on 09/14/2008 10:18:41 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: MichiganConservative
It is hard to believe that we have so many FR people abjectly ignorant of supply/demand function, and of the overwhelming advantage a free market offers over government control.

A free market means that prices will go up when availability goes down - and the product will be distributed to those who value/need it most.

49 posted on 09/14/2008 10:19:35 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: RSmithOpt

See my post #42.


50 posted on 09/14/2008 10:20:05 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Sometimes when you’re making a good point, you just have to live with some collateral damage.


51 posted on 09/14/2008 10:25:59 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
And it's agreed upon behind closed doors with both sides of the aisle, enviro-wackos, Wall Street, hedge fund managers, etc., not to build more refineries, build more nuke plants, of drill off-shore.

It it ain't about money the insiders can make then it has to be a colluded attempt to destroy our economy and this nation....there's no other options than those in this situation.

52 posted on 09/14/2008 10:26:56 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You should go over and post at DU, where your ilk reside.


53 posted on 09/14/2008 10:27:47 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: EagleUSA

That’s an asinine comment.

Houston and Bay refiners have no power as in electricity - what, you think the refineries run on windmills ?

Gheesh, get a clue.


54 posted on 09/14/2008 10:29:59 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: GregoryFul
You should go over and post at DU, where your ilk reside.

Are you suggesting this because you think I'm a free marketer, or because you've got a tin ear for irony and assume I'm the opposite? Either one is likely.

55 posted on 09/14/2008 10:30:42 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

“Even back then the oil companies needed twenty dollars per barrel to make any kind of a profit”

yea right...and that’s why investors were receiving dividends on their stock...the oil companies were feeling charitable... LMAO


56 posted on 09/14/2008 10:32:15 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Zauber

>>>Gasoline went up 40 cents a gallon yesterday on Long Island.

The Ike spike. It’ll go down again when they’ve got the Gulf oil production back in the pipeline.


57 posted on 09/14/2008 10:32:28 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Screw the media - Vote McCain-Palin.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Your postings represent you as a non-free market, self-centered idiot. Reform or go find your type elsewhere.


58 posted on 09/14/2008 10:36:13 AM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: GregoryFul
Your postings represent you as a non-free market, self-centered idiot. Reform or go find your type elsewhere.

You do not have a clue what you're talking about. Not even half a clue.

59 posted on 09/14/2008 10:51:29 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: RSmithOpt

Most likely they are paying attention to sites that give out information specific to the indiustry, sooner than the MSM gets arounf to it. Nt really insider trading if the info is made public sooner than a press release. I saw no news stories/reports about the price drop today, but you can rest assured, it’ll be in the “news” tommorrow, buty it was there for anyone to see, who checks the Oil-Price.net site. I just did it out of foorce of habit, since there usually isn’t much change/trades during the weekends. Most times, the price stays where it was friday evening, till early monday morning.


60 posted on 09/14/2008 11:02:25 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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