[pnh102]

All this talk is nice and all, but until the US Catholic Church starts excommunicating pro-abortion politicians, it means very little.

[SumProVita]

Any Catholic who support abortion is automatically excommunicated. It is considered a GRAVE sin.

[sitetest]

Dear pnh102,

“All this talk is nice and all, but until the US Catholic Church starts excommunicating pro-abortion politicians, it means very little.”

I think I disagree with your view, here.

While I'd love to see the bishops excommunicate the whole damned bunch of pro-abort “Catholic” politicians, Democrat and Republican alike, I'm probably not very representative of Catholic laypeople in the United States.

We'll have to see where the bishops take things. We'll have to see what happens after Ms. Pelosi meets formally with the Archbishop of San Francisco, for the formal reason of receiving instruction and correction from her bishop.

We'll have to see what Bishop Malooly of Wilmington, DE does with Mr. Biden.

If, before the election, these bishops make clear that these members of their flock hold views and take political positions, with full knowledge and obstinately, that are in conflict with the Church's teaching on life, and furthermore, provide for some formal sanctions against them, no matter how mild, it will cause a modest political earthquake. If, for instance, their bishops publicly ask that these two to refrain from receiving the Blessed Sacrament until they publicly repent of their heretical views and political positions - even without formally barring them from same - these two will be entirely disgraced among serious Catholics.

If the other bishops continue to make supportive comments, as has Bishop Vasa here, as has Cardinal Egan of New York, as has Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, then the Church will have taken on the two most high-profile “Catholic” pro-aborts in the United States.

The impact will be stunning, even though the actions by the bishops will be well short of excommunication.

sitetest

[badpacifist]

A group called call to action was officially excommunicated and yet many still attend church. Those who vote for abortion have already unofficially excommunicated themselves. That is how it works.

[Salvation]

Pelosi, Biden, et al have excommunicated themselves by supporting abortion.

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches 1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches 2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm

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CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches 2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm

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4:	CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

[narses]

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo