Beam Me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 09/12/2008 6:46:15 PM PDT by gobucks
It's not the best-researched global-warming theory, but it could be the most horrifying to certain fans of college football: Environmentalists said Friday that climate change might push the growing range of Ohio's iconic buckeye tree out of the state, leaving it for archrival Michigan.
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"People had thought of global warming as something far away, affecting polar bears," said Tom Bullock, an advocate for the Pew Environment Group in Ohio. "If we don't get started now we will reduce the opportunity to reduce global warming and curb its worst effects."
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The coalition doesn't have any evidence that the buckeye's range has been pushed north but says global warming threatens to make that happen.
David Lytle, chief of the Division of Forestry in the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, said the campaign has merit because it calls attention to important ecological issues.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Repeated losses to Florida would be about the only thing that could cost Ohio it’s Buckeyes.
Anything for the environmentalists to get their way. What’s next?
This is actually pathetic.
No fear. Lack of sunspots and the wisdom of the Farmers’ Almanac confirm we are in a cooling trend.
The sky is falling...
“Did you know….
Thousands of Ohioans could be out of jobs if global warming is not addressed.
Global warming poses serious threats to the human health and well being of Ohioans.
From fishing on Lake Erie to hunting in the state’s forests, Ohio’s rich wildlife heritage faces an added threat from global warming.
Global warming will lead to billions of dollars of economic costs for Ohioans.”
“If we don’t get started now we will reduce the opportunity to reduce global warming and curb its worst effects.”
This statement is not even true according to the ICCP reports; because even doing EVERYTHING they propose MUST be done NOW will not stop the rise to the initial “catastrophic” high temps they predict, because that rise is already predicted on the “man-made” global warming push already generated. The steps proposed that “must” be made, will, at most, only keep (so they believe) the temps from getting “even worse” than what they predict.
Too bad it’s all supposition based on bad science coupled with GIGO in the data and incomplete science and data in the theoretical models used to explain it.
They said the same thing about the Saguaro cactus in Arizona back in the 70s when these fruitcakes were trying to pimp their “global cooling” scam. To this day, the Saguaros are in exactly the same place they’ve always been. Somebody tell these bozos that the “global warming” hoax is over.
With that statement, he lost all of his credibility. By the way, what happened to the glaciers in Ohio if there are NOT normal natural changes in climate? The answer is OF COURSE there are normal changes, and we do NOT know what part man has in the changes seen recently.
Instead of putting up a billboard, how about putting up one of Obama's windmills. The answer there is of course that a nuclear power plant is much more economically efficient and has less impact on the environment.
They must have puny buckeyes in Ohio, then. Hell, I can show them wild buckeyes growing within view of downtown Dallas (Texas).
More enviro-whacko bullcrap.
Good. Those trees are ugly anyways.
Isn’t a buckeye just a useless nut?
In honor of Sunday’s nationally televised game, couldn’t they have done something with the Browns and Steelers?
Hey, watch who you’re calling a “useless nut!” :-)
ABSTRACT:
"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.
Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.
If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation periods. Now look very carefully at the relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually lagged behind temperature increases ...by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore dishonestly and continually claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had once led to increased warming during the past 400,000 years. -ETL
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?
Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.
In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).
The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
Even Gators won’t eat ‘em!
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