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Pickens' Natural Gas Nonsense
Junk Science ^ | 9/11/08 | Steven Milloy

Posted on 09/12/2008 7:59:30 AM PDT by ZGuy

"Get this one," says billionaire T. Boone Pickens in his latest TV ad, "Iran is changing its cars to natural gas and we're not doing a thing here. They're doing this to use less oil and sell it for $120 a barrel. We can switch our cars to natural gas and stop sending our dollars to foreign countries."

Readers of this column know better than to take at face value the marketing of the so-called "Pickens Plan."

So what's the full story behind Iran's move, and what would be the impact of switching our cars to natural gas?

Although Iran is a major oil and gas producer, it lacks oil-refining capacity and must import about 50 percent of its gasoline. To be less vulnerable to international pressure concerning its nuclear program, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad decided to reduce Iran's reliance on imported gasoline.

He started with rationing in May 2007. But that quickly led to violent social unrest.

Ahmadinejad then decided to convert Iran's new car fleet to natural gas. So 60 percent of Iran's car production this year -- about 429,000 vehicles -- will be dual-fuel-ready, capable of running on both gasoline and natural gas.

But contrary to Pickens assertion, Iran isn't trying to use less oil:; It's trying to use less imported gasoline -- and only to thwart a possible international gasoline embargo.

Though hardly a role model for energy policy, should we nevertheless follow Iran's lead with respect to natural-gas cars? Just what would that mean to you and to our economy?

While the natural gas sold for auto fuel is as much as 50 percent less expensive than gasoline -- at least for now -- the cover charge to get into a natural-gas vehicle can easily erase any savings.

A new natural-gas-powered car, such as the Honda Civic GX, for example, is almost 40 percent more expensive than a conventional Civic ($24,590 versus $17,700).

While tax credits can reduce the cost by thousands, somebody -- either you and/or taxpayers -- will be paying the difference.

If natural gas fuel saved you, say, $2 per gallon, then you'd have to drive 124,020 highway miles or 82,680 city miles to break even on fuel costs against the $6,890 purchase price premium.

You can convert an existing car from gasoline to natural gas, but the costs are daunting.

Converting a car to dual-use (as in Iran) costs between $6,000 to $10,000. Converting a car to run on natural gas only is about half as expensive.

Even so, the conversion has to be done correctly or, in the worst case, you risk leaks that could turn your car into an improvised explosive device. And if your car is altered without proof of EPA certification, you might not get any of the all-important conversion tax credits.

Then there's the inconvenience. Though their fuel tanks are larger -- which, incidentally, reduces trunk space -- natural gas cars have less range.

While a new Honda Civic can go as far as 500 miles on a tank of gasoline, the GX's range is less than half of that -- and, currently, there are only about 1,600 natural-gas refueling stations across the country, compared with 200,000 gasoline stations.

If your home uses natural gas, you could buy a home filling station at a cost of about $2,000 plus installation. While home filling stations can further reduce fuel costs to substantially below $2 per gallon, the devices take about 4 hours to replenish the fuel consumed by only 50 miles of driving. So much for gas-and-go.

Moving past the personal expense and inconvenience, the broader implications of natural-gas cars are worrisome.

The U.S. currently uses about 23 trillion cubic feet of natural gas per year. Like all commodities, the price of natural gas is supply-and-demand dependent.

Switching just 10 percent of the U.S. car fleet to natural gas would dramatically increase our consumption of natural gas by about 8 percent (1.9 trillion cubic feet) -- an amount that is slightly less than one-half of all current residential natural gas usage and one-quarter of all industrial usage.

The price ramifications of such a demand spike would likely be significant. The current cost advantage of natural gas over gasoline could easily be reversed. Our move toward energy independence could also be compromised.

Domestic production of natural gas has not kept pace with rapidly increasing demand. Consequently, about 15 percent of our natural gas must now be imported.

Without more domestic gas drilling, additional demand will need to be met with natural gas imported by pipeline and in liquefied form from the very same foreign sources that T. Boone Pickens rails about in the context of oil.

In its most recent annual outlook, the U.S. Department of Energy projects that the U.S. natural-gas market will become more integrated with natural-gas markets worldwide as the U.S. becomes more dependent on imported liquefied natural gas -- causing greater uncertainty in future U.S. natural-gas prices.

The natural-gas supply problem will be additionally magnified if significant greenhouse-gas regulation is enacted.

Here's how: Currently, when natural gas gets too expensive, electric utilities often substitute coal or cheaper fuels for power generation.

Under a greenhouse-gas regulation scheme, however, inexpensive coal might no longer be an alternative because of the significantly greater greenhouse-gas emissions involved with its combustion.

Utilities, and ultimately consumers, could easily find themselves at the mercy of natural-gas barons -- like T. Boone Pickens himself, a large investor in natural gas.

Is that the real "Pickens Plan?"


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KEYWORDS: ads; energy; naturalgas; transportation
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To: ZGuy
If natural gas fuel saved you, say, $2 per gallon, then you'd have to drive 124,020 highway miles or 82,680 city miles to break even on fuel costs against the $6,890 purchase price premium.

But, that's an awful lot of oil that we WON'T be importing, so it's a national security investment too. Plus, we have to admit that the price of the natural gas conversion would drop drastically because of sales volume. Yes, Pickens is trying to make money, but it still makes a heck of a lot of sense.

21 posted on 09/12/2008 8:25:26 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: ZGuy

When windmills fail because the wind stops, natural gas generators fill the gap.

Spain uses a lot of windmills. They also have built hundreds of NG demand fill sites. It has no NG of its own.

Need I say more?


22 posted on 09/12/2008 8:26:29 AM PDT by TheGeezer (OK, so it's McCain...sigh...AND GOVERNOR PALIN! WOO-HOO!!!!)
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To: xDGx
All that wrinkled SOB has done in his life is leave a trail of gutted companies. See Union 76.

All I know about T.Boone Pickens is he's mainly responsible for Kerry's defeat.

Other than being a shareholder or industry worker, what do you care if U76 bit the dust?

23 posted on 09/12/2008 8:26:40 AM PDT by rvoitier ("I'll see you at the debate, bitches!" ~~ Paris Hilton, '08 Campaign)
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To: lionheart 247365

BINGO!!!!

When Mr. Pickens buys his own land to make millions on rather than stealing from the ‘poor working class’ in Roberts County, I MAY listen to him.


24 posted on 09/12/2008 8:27:06 AM PDT by highnoon (BREAKING NEWS ***Maverick/Barracuda defeat Ears/Plugs***)
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To: chuckles
Everybody is missing the point with T.Boone. The windmills are a ruse to get water rights in the wind corridor and the Nat Gas stuff is because he owns a boat load of CHK stock. ( And COP, which is also big in nat gas). He's 80 and a billionaire, but it's still about money,....his money.

I think he's trying to get as much money as he can now, in order to keep building his legacy at Oklahoma State University. He personally doesn't need the money.
25 posted on 09/12/2008 8:27:31 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Conceal carry - Don't leave home without it.)
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To: raybbr
Not to mention the fear of gas line everywhere

What? Most places already have natural gas lines running all over the place.

26 posted on 09/12/2008 8:27:38 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: rightinthemiddle
CNG is efficient and burns clean.

I talked to a mechanic who worked on CNG vehicles for the City of Mesa, AZ. He said they run lousy, never seemed to work right, and always needed repair.

27 posted on 09/12/2008 8:27:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Eras will now be referred to as: BS: Before Sarah and AS: After Sarah)
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To: rivercat
What? Most places already have natural gas lines running all over the place.

Not where I live. The Northeast has very little gas lines.

28 posted on 09/12/2008 8:29:25 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: lionheart 247365

You can be sure that if Pickens is for something, then it is something that will personally benefit him. What a con artist.


29 posted on 09/12/2008 8:30:51 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Always Right
I always get a chuckle out of the ad when Pickens claims that Wind is half the answer! Right. Wind will never be more than a minute fraction of the answer.

Pickens starts off his commercials with "Drill Drill Drill".

30 posted on 09/12/2008 8:31:04 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: raybbr
What? Most places already have natural gas lines running all over the place.

And they aren't unblowupable either. We've had underground lines blow up around Kansas.
31 posted on 09/12/2008 8:32:05 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Conceal carry - Don't leave home without it.)
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To: ZGuy

Pickens’ plan would vastly increase the price of NG, which would make my already obscene winter NG bills flat out unaffordable. I’d have to turn off my furnace. No thanks.


32 posted on 09/12/2008 8:32:42 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ZGuy

This article is well written. It’s concise with a wealth of solid information. If journalism schools would churn out reporters that could communicate like this the MSM wouldn’t be going out of business.


33 posted on 09/12/2008 8:32:51 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: rface

$10 of NG will take you a little more than half as far.


34 posted on 09/12/2008 8:32:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: raybbr

Okay, so electric in the NE and CNG out West, and Sarah Palin’s NG pipeline can bring us our fuel!


35 posted on 09/12/2008 8:33:13 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: aklurker
The only problem with it’s use in cars is infrastructure, and that is not that great a challenge if people get on board.

Which people? If you are suggesting that the government use tax dollars to capitalize the infrastructure for NG fueled vehicles, then I disagree with you completely.

If however, you are suggesting that private business capitalize the new infrastructure for NG fueled vehicles, then I have to ask... "if its such a good idea, then why haven't profit hungry businesses already gotten started?"

The simple fact is, NG fueled vehicles are not as cost effective as gasoline vehicles, even at current pricing.

T Boone Pickens wants you to pressure your government representatives into transferring tax dollars to his pockets. That's the Pickens' Plan.

36 posted on 09/12/2008 8:33:18 AM PDT by been_lurking
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To: Kackikat

He’s just another scammer.


37 posted on 09/12/2008 8:35:18 AM PDT by Califreak (Rome is burning and nobody cares)
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To: ZGuy
I can't stand T-Bone Pickins just on general principle. I cringe each time I hear his flat voice impinging on the Rush Limbaugh Show which he's latched on to like a leech.

I wish he'd just GO AWAY.

Leni

38 posted on 09/12/2008 8:35:46 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home Nov. to Vote for Obama-ization, More Regulation, Taxation, Litigation and Ginsburgization)
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To: Califreak

Pickens is a supporter of Media Research Center. Additionally:

“T. Boone Pickens—$171.5 million to the T. Boone Pickens Foundation. Pickens, 78, founder of Mesa Petroleum and BP Capital Management in Dallas, gave $160 million to establish the T. Boone Pickens Foundation in Dallas. He has said he plans to give most of his charitable donations through the foundation from now on. The foundation’s giving will be distributed to groups throughout the country and focus primarily on health and medical research, treatment, and services, as well as conservation and wildlife management, corporate health and fitness, education and athletics, and assistance for troubled children. Pickens, who is chairman of the new foundation, has said he hopes to give away 80 percent of his fortune, estimated at $2.7 billion, while he is still alive. He has not yet decided whether to endow the foundation or simply donate money to it every year. He has said, however, that the foundation will eventually give away all of its money to charity at some point after his death.”


39 posted on 09/12/2008 8:39:58 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: rface

I don’t normally post but I’m looking at a Ford truck which can be converted to a bi-fuel (runs on gas or CNG) and has a 22 gallon CNG tank in the bed.

Looking at the following estimates:

Gasoline mileage: 13 city – 18 hwy
CNG: 11 city – 15 hwy
Currently 86 octane gasoline in my area was at $3.45 yesterday and CNG was $1.14 gge. (CNG in OK is cheap right now. Gallon Gas Equivalent = gge)

City Gas mileage:
$10/$3.45 = 2.8985 gallons
2.8985 gallons x 13 mpg = 37.68 miles

City CNG mileage: $10/$1.14 = 8.7719 gge
8.7719 x 11 mpg = 96.491 miles

Does my math check?


40 posted on 09/12/2008 8:44:54 AM PDT by cobyok
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