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To: wideawake
These two are guilty, period.

Guilty of what? Trying to guard the border? Trusting their supervisor to file the correct report? Of not letting an international felon escape?

Which side are you on here? You haven't turned ACLU/La Raza moonbat on us have you?

16 posted on 09/12/2008 6:22:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Guilty of what?

Attempted murder.

Trying to guard the border?

Is taht what they were trying to do? Given their clowning it's kind of hard to tell.

Trusting their supervisor to file the correct report?

Heh heh.

First, both of them knew that it was their responsibility to file an incident report and furnish their supervisor with it. Not the other way around.

Second, tampering with evidence is even worse than not filing a report.

Aldrete-Davila didn't escape? He didn't get away? Ramos and Compean took him into custody?

Everyone with any familiarity with the case knows that Aldrete-Davila got away.

Which side are you on here?

I am on the side of having border enforcement personnel who do their jobs properly. Who don't let individuals like Aldrete-Davila escape and who do not obviously violate the Fourth Amendment, ensuring that a judge will let the criminal escape.

You haven't turned ACLU/La Raza moonbat on us have you?

Not at all. Championing Ramos and Compean is to champion the wrong way of doing things and to celebrate incompetence.

When you read the trial transcripts you have to wince at what a bad job Compean admits to doing.

40 posted on 09/12/2008 6:51:28 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Guilty of what? Trying to guard the border? Trusting their supervisor to file the correct report? Of not letting an international felon escape?

No, not guilty of any of that.

First, they did not guard the border. They first spotted the guy on OUR side of the border, already driving a VAN full of pot.

Second, they did not trust their supervisor to file a correct report, because they didn't tell him what happened.

Third, they LET the felon escape, as two armed border patrol agents let an unarmed man who was shot in the buttocks walk back over the border to Mexico, and then could not identify him to their supervisors.

The only reason that the international felon is in jail is because the Border Patrol made a deal with him to come back and testify, which allowed them to identify him clearly, and so when he committed additional crimes he was caught and convicted.

So no, on all of your "charges", they are innocent. If they hadn't hit the guy with a bullet,and if the guy hadn't told people who told other agents, a known drug dealer would still be free, and we wouldn't even KNOW about it.

150 posted on 09/12/2008 12:17:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Dead Corpse

“Guilty of what? Trying to guard the border? Trusting their supervisor to file the correct report? Of not letting an international felon escape?”
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They are guilty of shooting an unarmed man, altering the scene to cover up the act, and then lying about it afterward.

No matter what you think about illegal immigration, these men did wrong and then were convicted in a court with lawyers to defend them.

Everytime this subject comes up, many Freepers turn into Edward Asner railing about Mumai Mugambi (or whatever the hell his name is).

I know I am about to get a lot of grief but let it go.


514 posted on 09/16/2008 1:31:37 PM PDT by awake-n-angry
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