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Interesting article. I find it hard to believe the Sukhois could have done well without working radar guided missiles. Was the F-35 stealth modeled to work, or fail? Or, did the scenarios used involve poor stealth aspects (angles) of the F-35?
Inquiring minds want to know, but I doubt we ever will as the details are doubtless classified.
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I as a fighter jet buff am not surprised by this.
Historically in video games, which unfortunately, I’ve played a lot, the Sukhois and the Migs are a match if not better than most simulated US aircraft. In the latest installment of Ace Combat, the obvious maneuverability and performance curb is in favor of the Russian made aircraft. The F-22 is king in these simulations thought.
Going down the current line of US jetfighters, the least favored in video games is the F16. The F18 has a lot of maneuverability and feels like a light weight. The F15 is like a flying brick with rockets. On the other side, the Russian built aircraft are like ballerinas, turning and dodging effortlessly. The best by far, as I already stated, is the F22, there is no match to it and in any simulated video game it makes things easy, almost too easy.
I wouldn’t trust simulated games, when all is said and done, the final outcome is the training and discipline of the pilot. Back in the Korean war, all statistics said that the Mig 15 was to be superior to the F86, yet the F86 ruled the skies.
The F35 project has a lot against it. Engineers are trying to make one aircraft do too much and at the end we will end up with a jet fighter that is mediocre or good at everything but not great in one single aspect of the operating field. The F22 is perfect for air superiority and that is what it was designed for.
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Well from what I’ve seen, the F-35 by all rights should be trounced in a dogfight with a Su-30. That’s typically what happens when you have a air superiority fighter go up against a mud mover
The Su-30 has higher thrust.
Has a lower wing loading.
Has thrust vectoring, and canards.
And has a higher thrust to weight ratio.
Aircraft with low wing loadings tend to have superior sustained turn performance because they can generate more lift for a given quantity of engine thrust.
Now on the other hand, the F-15 has a lower wing loading, has a higher thrust to weight ratio, and a faster rate of climb than the Su-30 has.
The drawback for the F-15 is that it lacks thrust vectoring, and the canards which adds to slow speed manuvering during a dog fight.
The F-22 has an even lighter wing loading than the Su-30.
Here’s some numbers for comparison:
Su-30:
Wing Loading:_________82.3 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____1.0
Speed:________________2.0
Max take Off Weight:__76,060
Thrust (Afterburner):_55,120 w/ 2D thrust vectoring
Max g:________________?
Rate of Climb:________45,275 ft/min
F-35A:
Wing Loading:_________91.4 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____0.89 (100% fuel), 1.12 (50% fuel)
Speed:________________1.6+
Max take Off Weight:__60,000
Thrust (Afterburner):_40,000
Max g:________________9g
Rate of Climb:________classified
F-22A:
Wing Loading:_________66 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____1.09 (100% fuel), 1.26 (50% fuel)
Speed:________________2.42+ (Supercruise 1.5+)
Max take Off Weight:__83,500
Thrust (Afterburner):_70,000lbs w/ 2D thrust vectoring
Max g:________________-3.0/+9.0
Rate of Climb:________classified
F-15C/D/E:
Wing Loading:_________73.1 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____1.12 (P&W -220), 1.30 (P&W -229)
Speed:________________2.5+
Max take Off Weight:__68,000 (C/D), 81,000 (E)
Thrust (Afterburner):_50,000 (-220), 58,000 (-229)
Max g:________________9
Rate of Climb:________50,000+ ft/min
F-16C:
Wing Loading:_________88.3 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____0.898 (P&W F-100), 1.095 (GE F-110)
Speed:________________2.0
Max take Off Weight:__42,300
Thrust (Afterburner):_55,120
Max g:________________9
Rate of Climb:________50,000 ft/min
F/A-18 (C/D):
Wing Loading:_________93 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____0.95
Speed:________________1.8
Max take Off Weight:__51,550
Thrust (Afterburner):_35,500
Max g:________________9
Rate of Climb:________50,000 ft/min
E/F:
Wing Loading:_________92.8 ft/lb2
Thrust to Weight:_____0.93
Speed:________________1.8+
Max take Off Weight:__60,000
Thrust (Afterburner):_44,000
Max g:________________9
Rate of Climb:________50,000 ft/min
Dennis Jensen is a known idiot who likes to think himself a defence expert when in fact he knows less than nothing. He is also a close associate of Karlo Clopp - another infamous know nothing drongo who runs an air power website, has tried to sell Defence on upgrading the F-111 with Raptor engines and buying F-22.
Put no stock in this. These people know less about defence than 0bama.