Posted on 09/11/2008 1:44:48 AM PDT by tomymind
Don't know if they could wait that long. Thirty states have some kind of early voting and I doubt they could change the ticket once voting started. The whole country isn't New Jersey, if they really want to dump Biden (which I strongly doubt would happen) they need to act soon.
Michelle wouldnt allow a hillary Veep
I agree. As one FReeper put it yesterday; "There's your October Surprise".
And ditto what you said about the timing.
Say...less than two weeks before the election and after the debates. There'd be no time to really respond.
Then again, Hillary isn't exactly popular outside of the PUMA supporters, but it wouldn't stop that group from voting for the ticket.
OK, let's assume for a second that you're correct in your thoughts. How would this revelation play out in public perception? Especially now, after Biden's own little revelation, essentially that he's less qualified than Hillary to be on the ticket? The meme has been planted, Obama's judgment is being questioned (not just by us but by the left), a more qualified woman is being percieved as having been passed over ... I see little downside to this. Should Biden actually be thrown under the bus for Hillary, then there's a whole 'nother set of thorns for Obama to contend with. His own most ardent supporters are misogynist. He will be overshadowed by his own VP. The longer we can keep them chasing their collective (and I do mean collective) tails over this, the longer they remain in complete disarray.
But remember what Gov Bill "Judas" Richardson (D, New Mexico) said Hillary told him after he decided to endorse Obama. "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."
I think she realizes exactly what happened. Obama's Hopey McChange routine won him the nomination, and was on track to run out of steam. There's a lot of Wright sermons, Ayers links. Hillary knows what the last 2 months of the election will do to a sham candidate.
Sadly, Obama never got a chance to run out of steam on his own. Sarah Palin turned the coronation into the Hindenburg disaster. Obama is already disintegrating, weeks before the election. And McCain hasn't even really started hitting him. Just playful jabs this far, and they're hitting like sledgehammers. What's Obama going to do against ads showing him smiling in the audience while Wright thunders "God damn America"?
Hillary saw it all coming. "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win." No way on Earth she'd go near his candidacy. You may as well hope for Santa Claus to join the ticket.
In Obama’s first big test of Presidential Authority, he fumbled the ball. Big Time.
He could have put this race away in August by swallowing his pride and selecting Hillary Clinton for the ticket. It was a move so obvious, with a pay-off so huge, that a third-grader could have gotten it right. Pick Hillary and win, or pick somebody else and risk losing. In that situation, prospective President Barack Obama picked Joe Biden, and made losing a very real possibility.
The Biden pick revealed deep insecurity and weakness. It showed insecurity because Obama accepted the criticism that he is a policy lightweight who needs others to add heft to his campaign. It showed weakness because he allowed himself to be cowed by others who hate Hillary and by Hillary herself.
In his first test of Presidential decision making, Obama revealed himself to be an insecure and weak deal-maker, who looks for the easy way out, even if that way clearly leads to disaster.
And the Donks have the nerve to criticize the Republican choice for VEEP.
There is so much dirt on Clinton, volumes could be whipped up in a New York minute.
and that ain’t happening (Santa Claus joining) because the North Pole is in Alaska and Santa is a strong Sarah Palin supporter :-D.
McCain saw something in Palin that "WE, THE PEOPLE" have been asking the Republicans for, over and over....A CONSERVATIVE. It was listening to, "the people", not politics and the media as usual, that helped him in his decision.
There's a lot of irony in all this.
Our forefathers anticipated "socialism". They set up the Senate and the Electoral College to combat it. Unfortunately, the Senate has not lived up to its' responsibilities.
We need a change IN CONGRESS and THE SUPREME COURT to get back to what was intended by our forefathers.
Just the image in people’s mind of Obama dropping Biden and putting Hillary on the ticket would look bad ? right ? the campaign dollars would drop off dramatically when they ( donors ) see that the ticket is losing or is in trouble by the fact that Obama has to CHANGE his VP in mid stride in this last stretch to the election.
It's not just low. It's nonexistant. Look, pretend you are a Democratic voter, and you'd be perfectly happy with Clinton or Obama.
Ask yourself this. "What will I and all of my Democrat friends say the day after McCain wins?"
(Aside from, "No fair, I think they only counted three of my votes.")
They're going to say, "Damn. We should have gone with Hillary."
She's doing the exact right thing. She ran a good race, she was magnanimous at the convention, now she's fading away into the background to nurse her wounds. When the Democratic party needs a champion, she'll be back. And the Democratic voters will say, "We should have gone with Hillary LAST time."
Too easy. Why muddle things up by jumping on the ticket now, just as that ticket is taking a mach 5 nosedive into the pavement?
If Hillary had run as VP with Kerry, they would have won and she MIGHT be running as Kerry’s successor. Sometimes, No. 2 is the right step to take. Egomania is a shortcoming.
The BDS has crippled the lefts thought process and they missed a golden oppertunity with the biden pick.And they damn well know it.
we’ve needed 2 things: a conservative and someone who can connect with people, like Reagan.
“There is so much dirt on Clinton, volumes could be whipped up in a New York minute.”
well the obama people realized that the clinton’s were exactly what we’ve been saying all along. I don’t think the reason why Hillary wasn’t vetted was because of spite...
Hillary probably didn’t expect Palin to be a future contender. She probably thought mccain would pick some very conservative guy or some boring guy and she’d run against him.
Rusgh’s Operation Chaos is still working!!!!!!!!!!1
Am I missing something here? Aren’t Hillary’s negatives still above 50%? What would replacing one liar with another really gain Barry? Does Hillary really want to be compared to Sarah?
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