[1-Eagle]

Excellent post.

You know, one thought occurred to me that I don't recall hearing anyone ever say before. We've been all over the issue of "when does life begin?" ... but here is yet another good question: "When does citizenship begin?"

A newborn, regardless of how much it is wanted or not wanted, by law is a citizen of the United States, and thus should be naturally afforded all rights including the right to representation in a court of law.

[bubman]

Abortion may eclipse slavery as the one true crime against humanity. At least the slaves fought back. An unborn child is at the mercy of the living. Through a legal argument a child is not recognized as a human being. The same legal argument's were made against people of color and of serfs who lived and toiled on feudal lands for centuries. Barak Obama is utterly contemptuous of his own. As a black man from a teenage mother abandoned by his black father Obama if anything should stand up to this holocaust. Instead he wants to accelerate it. MLK must be spinning in his grave indeed.

[allmendream]

Amendment 14: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

THAT is when citizenship begins.