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WHAT MAKES PEOPLE VOTE REPUBLICAN?
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/haidt08/haidt08_index.html ^ | Jonathan Haidt

Posted on 09/09/2008 9:26:33 AM PDT by ventanax5

If Democrats want to understand what makes people vote Republican, they must first understand the full spectrum of American moral concerns. They should then consider whether they can use more of that spectrum themselves. The Democrats would lose their souls if they ever abandoned their commitment to social justice, but social justice is about getting fair relationships among the parts of the nation. This often divisive struggle among the parts must be balanced by a clear and oft-repeated commitment to guarding the precious coherence of the whole. America lacks the long history, small size, ethnic homogeneity, and soccer mania that holds many other nations together, so our flag, our founding fathers, our military, and our common language take on a moral importance that many liberals find hard to fathom.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2008; gop; issues; mccainpalin
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To: ventanax5
"What Makes People Vote Republican? "

Brains.

21 posted on 09/09/2008 9:45:20 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: ventanax5
"social justice is about getting fair relationships "

The Government as your master is fair?

Like I said...the enlightenment was a failed experiment. They are just replacing one totalitarian ideology for another.

22 posted on 09/09/2008 9:45:20 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: ventanax5

It is clearly written by a liberal atheist, but I thought it was a very strongly written article. I’d enjoy a debate with the author.


23 posted on 09/09/2008 9:45:29 AM PDT by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: ventanax5
"If Democrats want to understand what makes people vote Republican, they must first... GET A CLUE!"

jw

24 posted on 09/09/2008 9:45:52 AM PDT by JWinNC (www.anailinhisplace.net)
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To: ventanax5

Thanks for the interesting post. I am printing out the essay and the counter-essays for leisurely digestion later on tonight. However, from what I can see after a very superficial scan of the essays, the difference between Democrats and Republicans is Republicans respect the vast majority of the citizens of this nation and the Democrats pity them. Hence Republicans want to enable people to pursue their own definition of happiness and Democrats want to define and provide that happiness (and reap the credit therefor).


25 posted on 09/09/2008 9:45:55 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: ventanax5
The Democrats would lose their souls if they ever abandoned their commitment to social justice...

like Marxist and homosexual indoctrination in our schools, abortion-on-demand, welfare moms, Christian-bashing, gun grabbing, newspeak, overtaxation without representation, Constitution destruction, judicial tyranny...

26 posted on 09/09/2008 9:46:04 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: ventanax5

Because there’s not a Conservative Party that we can vote for.


27 posted on 09/09/2008 9:46:13 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Our hockey mom can beat up your community organizer.)
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To: Jibaholic

See post #18.


28 posted on 09/09/2008 9:46:32 AM PDT by maggief (Difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull ... lipstick!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"economic interests"

The author seems to be channeling Thomas Frank and a number of other left-wing "experts" who can't understand why middle and lower middle class Americans vote for Republicans. Now even if we discard all the factors other than economics as to why they vote for Repubicans (which are many), let's just talk about the economic factor. As you said, why should these lefties believe that the Democrats have the economic answers for less-than-rich Americans?

Their thinking reflects a kind of severely limited thinking about the possibilities for success for average Americans. At the bottom is a failure to believe in America: not just the physical reality but also the idea of America where the average person can become successful or wealthy without the overreaching hand of Big Government. In short these lefties are Big Gov acolytes. Average Americans who vote Republican are limited government Americans. There's the difference.

29 posted on 09/09/2008 9:47:23 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: ventanax5
Why in particular do working class and rural Americans usually vote for pro-business Republicans when their economic interests would seem better served by Democratic policies?

Why do farmers keep some grain aside to grow next year instead of just eating it now? After all, it would be in their short term best interest to have some more bread this winter instead of keeping grain in the barn. Maybe because people can see that short term gain can often result in long term losses. If you vote in favor of anti-business Democrats, the businesses will produce less, hire less and even provide less profit for those who have saved a few thousand dollars into the stock market. Sure, you might not get the latest goodies that the Dems promise, but what damage will that program do and the what better things could have been done by those who had been taxed?

30 posted on 09/09/2008 9:47:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: Earthdweller
Like I said...the enlightenment was a failed experiment. They are just replacing one totalitarian ideology for another.

All I need to know about secularism I learned from the French Revolution.

31 posted on 09/09/2008 9:47:35 AM PDT by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: ventanax5
It typically starts with who you think is responsible for your own safety and well-being, you or society. The former leaning conservative (Republican).
32 posted on 09/09/2008 9:48:30 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (McCain/Palin/America 2008 vs Obama/Biden/Media 2008 ...you decide.)
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To: Mr. K
'social justice' -whatever that means

It means having a tall redhead assigned to you by the Federal Girlfriend Assistance Office.


33 posted on 09/09/2008 9:50:23 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: ventanax5

Because their is no large Christian Conservative Party.


34 posted on 09/09/2008 9:51:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: ventanax5
WHAT MAKES PEOPLE VOTE REPUBLICAN?

The Democrats

35 posted on 09/09/2008 9:53:27 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: ventanax5

ANS: Education, common sense, having a full complement of brain cells.


36 posted on 09/09/2008 9:53:51 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: maggief
Examples include: having sex with a chicken carcass you’re about to eat...

Son, are you going to eat that? How many times have we told you NOT to play with your food!

37 posted on 09/09/2008 9:54:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: reagan_fanatic

Right you are! Democrats = Enlightened Europeans? I have a feeling that the liberals look at EU life and see Utopia, while conservatives see only foolish waste and moral decay. Americans will probably always desire freedom over serfdom, regardless of how much “safety” is offered. (Although I could be wrong.)


38 posted on 09/09/2008 9:54:34 AM PDT by swift15 (Not actively enabling the grievance industry or advancing world socialism.)
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To: ventanax5

If we were Communists we would vote Democrat but we love freedom so we don’t.


39 posted on 09/09/2008 9:58:49 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ventanax5
social justice is about getting fair relationships among the parts of the nation.

What the hell does that mean?
... Only a Mindless Liberal could write something that stupidly meaningless.

40 posted on 09/09/2008 9:59:23 AM PDT by bimbo
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