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1 posted on 09/08/2008 5:49:30 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; John Valentine; editor-surveyor; Mr Ramsbotham; Chode; ...
Chuck Colson obviously believes that HIV causes AIDS. Still, he has somehow managed to see through the misinformation put out by the socialist public health fanatics to justify their actions in Africa. If you really want your blood to boil, you might want to read the above article in conjuntion with the article entitled "Inventing an Epidemic" published in The American Spectator.

All the best--GGG

2 posted on 09/08/2008 5:59:43 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Well, whatever. At the same time 90% of all persons of Subsaharan African origin actually carry a gene that HELPS HIV do its work. And then there's serial polygamy ~
3 posted on 09/08/2008 6:00:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GodGunsGuts
Interesting. I know in Ohio (where I live), if you add up the most recent numbers:

Gay sex and intravenous drug use or having sex with a homosexual or intravenous drug user accounts for over 95% of all new HIV infections.

The whole idea that African HIV was spread by heterosexuals has always seemed like an obvious fraud.

5 posted on 09/08/2008 6:02:00 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: SunkenCiv; steelyourfaith

Thought you two might be interested in this story about the “other” big scientific scam of the century.

All the best—GGG


16 posted on 09/08/2008 6:39:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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They were wrong: The AIDS epidemic in Africa was not because of a unique African promiscuity. In some ways, it is the product of efforts to reduce the number of Africans.

Wow...that came outta nowhere. Help me a bit here. I can't find anything connecting this to the rest of the article. The conclusion was that poor medical procedure was the cause, or did I miss something?
20 posted on 09/08/2008 6:46:06 PM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagliine.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Chuck Colson obviously believes that HIV causes AIDS

The question is why don't YOU believe HIV causes AIDS????? And WHY do you keep posing the earth is flat and other babble on FR? Rosie doesn't believe fire can melt steel....

21 posted on 09/08/2008 6:50:16 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

For later read.

Another thing is that you get more money for your country the more AIDS cases you have. SO there is a big push to get more cases.


32 posted on 09/08/2008 7:12:51 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Well since “Chuck Colson obviously believes that HIV causes AIDS” and you think that belief is all lies and myth, then Colson is part of the Aids lobby, isn't he? And the author and researchers he referenced are also.
Or is he one of those AIDS “alarmists” who argue from “pseudoscience”? As you called them.
In short Colson is arguing that contaminated medical equipment is the principal means of HIV transmission. The researchers also found evidence to the contrary.
48 posted on 09/08/2008 10:39:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Come on. It's a SCAM!

The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition PETER DUESBERG†, CLAUS KOEHNLEIN* and DAVID RASNICK Donner Laboratory, University of California Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA *Internistische Praxis, Koenigsweg 14, 24103 Kiel, Germany † Corresponding author (Fax, 510-643-6455; Email, duesberg@uclink4.berkeley.edu) In 1981 a new epidemic of about two-dozen heterogeneous diseases began to strike non-randomly growing numbers of male homosexuals and mostly male intravenous drug users in the US and Europe. Assuming immunodeficiency as the common denominator the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) termed the epidemic, AIDS, for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. From 1981–1984 leading researchers including those from the CDC proposed that recreational drug use was the cause of AIDS, because of exact correlations and of drug- specific diseases. However, in 1984 US government researchers proposed that a virus, now termed human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is the cause of the non-random epidemics of the US and Europe but also of a new, sexually random epidemic in Africa. The virus-AIDS hypothesis was instantly accepted, but it is burdened with numerous paradoxes, none of which could be resolved by 2003: Why is there no HIV in most AIDS patients, only antibodies against it? Why would HIV take 10 years from infection to AIDS? Why is AIDS not self-limiting via antiviral immunity? Why is there no vaccine against AIDS? Why is AIDS in the US and Europe not random like other viral epidemics? Why did AIDS not rise and then decline exponentially owing to antiviral immunity like all other viral epidemics? Why is AIDS not contagious? Why would only HIV carriers get AIDS who use either recreational or anti-HIV drugs or are subject to malnutrition? Why is the mortality of HIV-antibody-positives treated with anti-HIV drugs 7–9%, but that of all (mostly untreated) HIV-positives globally is only 1⋅4%? Here we propose that AIDS is a collection of chemical epidemics, caused by recreational drugs, anti-HIV drugs, and malnutrition. According to this hypothesis AIDS is not contagious, not immuno- genic, not treatable by vaccines or antiviral drugs, and HIV is just a passenger virus. The hypothesis explains why AIDS epidemics strike non-randomly if caused by drugs and randomly if caused by malnutrition, why they manifest in drug- and malnutrition-specific diseases, and why they are not self-limiting via anti-viral immunity. The hypothesis predicts AIDS prevention by adequate nutrition and abstaining from drugs, and even cures by treating AIDS diseases with proven medications. [Duesberg P, Koehnlein C and Rasnick D 2003 The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemo- therapy and malnutrition; J. Biosci. 28 383–412]

51 posted on 09/09/2008 9:55:18 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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