You are flat out wrong about that. I can tell you have never truly known someone that has had an abortion.
When NOW talks about choice, the fail to mention it isn't always the woman's choice. Boyfriends, parents, even school/government counselors can (and do) apply a tremendous amount of pressure on women.
Imagine you were 19 and pregnant. Your boyfriend (who you thought actually loved you) is telling you you had better have an abortion or he'll leave you. Your parents are pushing for you to have an abortion. The counserlors at your school tell you the best thing to do is have an abortion and "it will all go away like it never happened."
Is it reasonable to expect a 19 year old girl to stand alone against pressure from every side?
I'm as pro-life as anyone (and probably more so than most that say they are pro-life) and I'll tell you right out, next time learn a thing or two before you stick your foot in your mouth.
What I do not get about the Dims going nuts about Palin and Trig is the fact that if the Dims are so into 'choice' well....it was Palin's 'choice' to have Trig which supposedly is the point of 'choice'. End of discussion on the matter from the Lefties as far as I am concerened :)
> You are flat out wrong about that.
Says you.
> I can tell you have never truly known someone that has had an abortion.
Fat lot you know. I have known several abortioners, and without exception they are shallow, selfish people unworthy of the spirited defense that you seem to insist is their due.
And what’s worse, they are unrepentant and they see themselves as “victims”.
I see neither reason nor excuse for turning sentient people into “victims” when they choose to kill other helpless human beings. They are not “victims” but rather “killers”.
The true victim was disposed of with the medical waste on the last day of his/her short life.
Abortioners deserve opprobrium, not support for their evil deeds.
If they are no longer considered “incompetents at law” (which handily takes in most people of child-bearing age) they are old enough to understand Thou Shalt Not Kill.
> Is it reasonable to expect a 19 year old girl to stand alone against pressure from every side?
Yes. Not only is it reasonable, it is moral, ethical and responsible. Sorry, ma’am — I guess one of the areas in which we differ is that I insist on treating adults like adults. At 19 she is no longer a girl, but rather a woman.
Is it reasonable to expect a 19 year old man to stand alone against peer pressure from his gang mates not to do a drive-by shooting?
You see, to me there is no difference. Killing is killing. And killing is a Sin. And abortion is usually killing in order to avoid a consequence of another Sin: that of fornication, or sex out of wedlock.
> I’m as pro-life as anyone
Evidently not. Perhaps you are not as pro-life as you should be?
> (and probably more so than most that say they are pro-life)
Demonstrably not moreso than I.
> and I’ll tell you right out, next time learn a thing or two before you stick your foot in your mouth.
I will keep your guidance in mind for the next time I do stick my foot in my mouth — which isn’t this time.
I think it is lamentable that perfectly good Conservatives like yourself can put away their moral compasses whenever it suits them: in this case over the emotive issue of Abortion.
Sorry, ma’am: one of the features of Free Speech is that we all have the right to differ. And one of the responsibilities of exercising that right is to have the courage of one’s convictions. In this case I believe you are tragically mistaken, and I stand by my earlier post.
You and I clearly disagree. And it is probable that we may never agree on this matter.
There it is. Just like that.
I would venture to say that some, if not most of the ardent supporters of “choice” are women who are still wrestling with the repressed guilt of having made that “choice”.
[”The lady dost protest too much, methinks.”]
Unaddressed and unconfessed guilt will make you crazy.
The internet is full of support groups for women who aborted and are now emotionally crippled for life.
I feel great pity for them for abortion is something they can never “make right again” or “take back”.
Abortion clinics should be required to present every potential “customer” with a list of the possible/likely mental/emotional “side effects” killing their baby might have.
True all too often. I used to date a woman who many years before had had an abortion. Her then fiance and her mother pressured her into having it. The fiance abandoned her afterwards (the scoundrel). It left some pretty severe emotional scars on her.