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I may not be on the right thread for this, so if me asking this question bugs you just kick me out...

I need someone to help me debunk (if possible) the following statistics that I was just given by an anti-war loon.

The “loon” is trying to say that 9/10 deaths in the Iraq war are civilian deaths.

Here is the info:

Survey){Iraqi deaths}[March 2003 to...]

(Iraqi Health Ministry survey){151,000 violent deaths out of 400,000 excess deaths due to the war}[June 2006]
(Lancet survey){601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths}[June 2006]
(Opinion Research Business survey){1,033,000 violent deaths as a result of the conflict} [August 2007]

17,979-23,690 insurgents dead according to the united states military.

THANKS FOR ANY HELP!


145 posted on 09/07/2008 1:14:49 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Proud member of the Grand OIL Party!)
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To: DrewsMum

Terrorist attacks causing civilian deaths in Iraq aren’t “due to the war”. They wouldn’t stop even if we left tomorrow.

They are attacks by mindless Islamic fundamentalist zombies, who will continue killing people in Iraq after we are gone. They will do this until they control the entire country, and continue killing all those they consider “apostates” from Islam.

Then they will use Iraq as a base to kill people somewhere else, namely Isreal, the remaining Christians in Jordan, and attack any other ME government they consider not on their side.


149 posted on 09/07/2008 1:29:29 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DrewsMum

http://www.stinkzone.com/cgi-bin/archives/000184.html


150 posted on 09/07/2008 1:30:08 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: DrewsMum

http://wais.stanford.edu/Iraq/iraq_deathsundersaddamhussein42503.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/is_iraq_more_peaceful_now_than.html

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/050117


151 posted on 09/07/2008 1:33:44 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: DrewsMum

The important thing to correct in terms of these civilian deaths is the cause of the civilian deaths.

The Lancet study — which is probably the most exaggerated estimate we have from the anti/war pro genocide community— estimates that 80-90% of the deaths are the result anti-coalition forces such as Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Loons who cite these studies as evidence against the war, support the killing of innocent Iraqis.

That will strike them as preposterous but is absolutely true. The only credible argument against genocidal intimidation which was being used inside Iraq to stop the emergence of democracy, is American and collaborative Iraqi military force.

By the Left’s own sources, it is not the Coalition that is causing the overwhelming majority of civilian deaths.

Loons who pretend that a suicide bomber who walks into a Mosque and kills 30 FELLOW MUSLIMS is the result of American imperialism is a common rhetorical participant in that killing by falsifying such a claim.

More significantly, the Loon Left is anti Muslim. In refusing to allow American miltiary protection of communities that do not want to be bombed by deranged Islamic Fasicsts like Zarqawi, they also participate in the genocidal agenda of Al Qaeda which primarily means killing tens of thousands of moderate muslims that support the Iraqi government and American security actions.

Anti-war is pro genocide of the Iraqi people. It is jingoism at its very worst.


172 posted on 09/07/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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