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TIME MAG SMEAR: Sarah Palin wanted to ban books at the local library (VANITY)
TIME ^ | September 15 2008 Issue | By NATHAN THORNBURGH / WASILLA, ALASKA

Posted on 09/06/2008 8:28:45 PM PDT by library user

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To: padre35

Great points!!!


41 posted on 09/06/2008 8:51:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: sauropod
So what if she wanted to ban books.

You're right. She's not banning books from Amazon - she's not banning them from the Internet. She's banning them from in institution we all support with our tax dollars.

If liberals keep pushing to have our libraries transformed into porn palaces, they'll find out we'd rather close the libraries - and by their way of thinking "ban all of 'em..."

42 posted on 09/06/2008 8:52:55 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Vegetarian" - Old Indian word for "bad hunter")
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To: library user

Michelle Malkin has already blown this out of the water.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin-banned-books-list/


43 posted on 09/06/2008 8:57:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Wow they really hate her.


44 posted on 09/06/2008 8:58:54 PM PDT by cyborg (Better to be alive and harrassing me than dead and quiet 6/20/2008)
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To: sauropod
So what if she wanted to ban books.

there’s plenty of books I would like to see banned.


It is not your job to decide what books I should be able to read. I am strongly against the government banning books.

That said, a small town library needs to spend its budget on the books that of interest to the greatest number of its citizens, so I don't think a library has an obligation to purchase a lot of controversial books.

What I have heard so far is that Sarah Palin asked what the librarian would do IF she asked her to ban books...but there was never a request to actually ban a book. Since the librarian hasn't come forward with her side of the story, it is a little hard to piece the story together. The guy she defeated for mayor doesn't seem like a totally reliable source to me.
45 posted on 09/06/2008 9:01:16 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: goldfinch

There are plenty of books worth keeping out of stacks that children or teens can access.


46 posted on 09/06/2008 9:04:02 PM PDT by Tax Government (McCain/Palin in 2008. Palin in 2012.)
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To: Tax Government
Just boycott Time mag by ending subs forever.

Plz, like I subscribe to that garbage in the first place.

47 posted on 09/06/2008 9:05:37 PM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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To: cyborg

I was going to ask the same thing.


48 posted on 09/06/2008 9:07:42 PM PDT by aroostook war
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To: aroostook war; 185JHP

I’ve never read it. It looks very overrated.


49 posted on 09/06/2008 9:10:51 PM PDT by cyborg (Better to be alive and harrassing me than dead and quiet 6/20/2008)
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To: library user
It would be interesting to know if Time expressed any outrage when an Ohio State University librarian was investigated for sexual harassment in 2006 for recommending the following conservative books to patrons: More information on this case can be found here.
50 posted on 09/06/2008 9:18:19 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: library user

Time Magazine Paid Circulation by Year (millions)
2002 = 4.1
2003 = 4.1
2004 = 4.0
2005 = 4.0
2006 = 4.1
2007 = 3.4

2008 = Time magazine’s single copy sales fell 7 percent, but its overall paid circulation (-0.3 percent) was left virtually untouched.


51 posted on 09/06/2008 9:21:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: library user

Has Time run the story about about trying to jail the WGN DJ in Chicago? Even if Palin sought to ban books, which is doubtful, the undisputed truth is that Obama wants his critics prosecuted and locked up.


52 posted on 09/06/2008 9:47:00 PM PDT by Spok (The Sinopian Sage)
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To: library user

Go to your bookstore, take out all the Slimes subscription litter cards and drop them in the mail for proce$$ing.


53 posted on 09/06/2008 9:53:34 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Raycpa

The story isn’t proven as a fact, but lets examine the scenario.

Small town, religion, and a newcomer to politics. New mayor wants to fix something she considers wrong...so she wants a couple of books removed from the library...she even has a list already made up, which would indicate that she’s done her research (as you’d expect from a college grad).

She shows up to tangle with the librarian, wearing the hat of the mayor. It ought to be simple and easy. The librarian won’t budge (as you’d expect from 99.9 percent of all librarians). A book is a book...you can’t dissolve it away.

So when the threat of termination comes up...I’m guessing the librarian simply smiled. To make this threat come true...you have to fire with “cause”, because, you end up in municipal court with official paperwork detailing the reason. The minute the judge involved sees “won’t ban books” as the cause...the town is in serious trouble and would likely have to reinstate the librarian or pay her off. These days? You’d be talking about $300k minimum. No small town can afford to just hand money out, and the political figure who screwed up...is finished in the next election.

So Mayor Sarah at that point, grasped the refusal to give in by the librarian and the impact on her career...thus giving up her stupid idea.

The only problem I now see...is that she has ultra strong religious convictions...and would be agreeable to the banning of books, or holding hostage various scientific principals. Its a great thing to have strong religious character and morals....at some point, you run across a line where you threaten other people and their beliefs. We did write that silly provision into the constitution, you know....freedom of religion, which coequals the concept of freedom from religion.


54 posted on 09/06/2008 10:04:13 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: library user

So you’re surprised by another sear? Time Magazine is nothing more than a propaganda outlet for DNC talking points.


55 posted on 09/06/2008 10:25:45 PM PDT by TBP
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To: cyborg; eyedigress
Yeah. I was going to post a thread that the Seattle’s Best in the Penn Station Border’s Books were sending donated bags of coffee to the troops in Iraq. More than can be said for Starbucks.

I don't know how this rumor got started, but it isn't true.

My daughter worked at a local Starbucks until very recently. She was in charge of the program at her store to get people to buy coffee to donate to the troops in Iraq.

She was very good at getting people to do this as well as getting the other employees to get the customers to do this. In fact, she was recognized by Starbucks for her success in doing so.

56 posted on 09/06/2008 10:28:00 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: library user

That will teach those McCain people who dismissed Time’s Jay Carney on FOX News a couple of days ago.


57 posted on 09/06/2008 11:13:50 PM PDT by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: Paleo Conservative; All

This is a key point that is almost always ignored in these discussions. Almost any K-12 library has extremely limited capacity (only a few thousand volumes, usually) compared to the utterly vast number of books in existence. Careful selection criteria MUST be used b/c neither shelf space nor budgets can allow for indiscriminate stocking of titles the way the Library of Congress or NY Public Library or Harvard U. can afford to do.

So, even before any content debates are begun, the FACT is that every book in a school library takes up space that could be occupied by another, different book.

Then, of course, it IS perfectly appropriate to ask what are age-appropriate titles. Should an elementary school stock books with the most explicit descriptions of sex, violence, drugs? [mommy, what is ‘fisting’? mommy, what is ‘mainlining’? etc.] Sounds like a lot of liberals think so, b/c to insist upon keeping such things out of 8 yr. old hands would be “censorship.”

What about books replete with instances of crude racism and/or sexism? Are taxpayers required to offer those to young students?

Where the debate can get more heated is on the high school level, where liberals are usually more ferocious about insisting upon stocking novels that might be controversial to some but are at least slightly in the pantheon of “literature” (not sure Henry Miller is that much of a writer but his books used to be exciting for people looking for something salacious).

Anyway, it is all lib propaganda to say that any attempt for a community to have input or control over the titles stocked by SCHOOL libraries is evil “censorship” or book banning — not adult in the community is affected in the slightest way by what schools do or do not offer to CHILDREN for their educational fare. The adults can still freely buy or borrow any book under the sun.


58 posted on 09/07/2008 1:05:18 AM PDT by Enchante (Governor Palin DECIDES more every day than all of Obama's "present" votes put together!!!)
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To: pepsionice
The only problem I now see...is that she has ultra strong religious convictions...and would be agreeable to the banning of books, or holding hostage various scientific principals. Its a great thing to have strong religious character and morals....at some point, you run across a line where you threaten other people and their beliefs. We did write that silly provision into the constitution, you know....freedom of religion, which coequals the concept of freedom from religion.

Great leap you made from possibly wanting to remove a book from a local library to a Christian boogey-man. What are you even doing here?

59 posted on 09/07/2008 1:08:04 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: Enchante

Ah, correction — I was thinking it was about school library books but it appears to be about the town public library.... same issues apply to very limited space, a local public library should only stock what is truly worthwhile etc.

But the leftist ALA has propagandized so thoroughly for so many years that it is always “censorship” to think a small library ought to exercise some intelligence and ethics over its acquisition and retention policies (most libraries of limited space also get RID of books annually in order to make space for newer ones considered more valuable to the collection). ALL public libraries make all sorts of decisions all the time about what books are or are not worthy of being in their collections. What librarians really are asserting in these debates is that THEY are the sole arbiters of what belongs in the town library. It should be perfectly appropriate to question their judgments as public officials, but of course liberals go into hysterical rage when anyone tries to do so.


60 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:38 AM PDT by Enchante (Governor Palin DECIDES more every day than all of Obama's "present" votes put together!!!)
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