polarik wrote:
“Here is their Seal image with only the outer ring illuminated:
Here is my best attempt to recreate that effect:
As you can see above, all of the embossed area on the Seal above the fold is illuminated.”
I’m confused. You originally asked “how it is that the top of this seal is reflecting light when no other part of the paper around it is lit?” I answered and said that it was lit but that the bumps in the seal are getting light at a different angle which makes them look brighter. And now you post a picture that answers your own question.
” Photo #6 is a continuation of Photo #5, and should have been illuminated in the same way as Photo #5, but it’s not.
Here’s Photo #5 taken before it:
Now, how is it that just that outer rim of the Seal above the fold is lit in Photo #6 when it was taken simply by moving the camera further down???”
I don’t think it was just the camera moving further down. I still don’t know how to post pictures here but here’s the URL for photo 5.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
And here’s the URL for photo 6.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
In photo 6 someone has their thumb pressing down on the corner of the birth certificate. I don’t think they had their thumb on it when photo 5 was taken. The middle and bottom parts of the birth certificate are darker in photo 6 than in photo 5 and the borders in photo 6 look straighter at the fold than in photo 5. It definitely looks like the angles of the middle and bottom parts of the birth certificate had changed between photo 5 and photo 6. The middle part of photo 6 looks like it was angled more away from the light so that only the bumps of the outer edge of the seal caught the light.
I really don’t know what you’re trying to say here. It all looks to me like someone just took some photos of the birth certificate.
I’m confused. You originally asked “how it is that the top of this seal is reflecting light when no other part of the paper around it is lit?” I answered and said that it was lit but that the bumps in the seal are getting light at a different angle which makes them look brighter. And now you post a picture that answers your own question. I'm sorry. I think I gave you too much information to process. If you go back and read what I said, you'll see that what puzzled me is the following: The outer ring, and ONLY the outer ring, of the Seal is illuminated, but not the inner ring, not the top of the crest, nor anything else above the fold.
There is no reason why this should happen. The outer ring of the Seal is no more raised than any other part of the Seal above the fold.
I tried my best to replicate the effect. I tried to illuminate ONLY the outer ring of the Seal, but I couldn't, and I concluded that it cannot be done without modifying the image, flattening the other parts of the seal, or aiming a thin slit of light on it (but, from where would it come?).
Look again. Here's the Seal in #6
Here's the Seal in #5, and as you can see, all is lit equally.
They moved the light. They moved the camera. They did not the subject.
Does that clarify it now?
