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San Francisco Archbishop addresses recent comments made by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
catholic-sf. ^ | Most Rev. George H. Niederauer

Posted on 09/05/2008 7:20:47 AM PDT by flyfree

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1 posted on 09/05/2008 7:20:47 AM PDT by flyfree
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To: flyfree

The Archbishop could have saved a tree - SanFranNan does not care what the church believes.


2 posted on 09/05/2008 7:26:40 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: flyfree

Not exactly drawing a line in the sand.

I expect San Fran Nan to ignore or rebut this letter, and I expect her to continue to receive Communion at every available photo op.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 7:27:10 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Democrats are Intimidated by Strong Women.)
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To: flyfree

http://www.sfarchdiocese.org/about-us/news/?i=1308


4 posted on 09/05/2008 7:27:26 AM PDT by flyfree (Biden is no Palin and Obama is no McCain)
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To: flyfree

She knows better than her church does.

/s


5 posted on 09/05/2008 7:27:41 AM PDT by DeLaine (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.)
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To: edcoil

Where is 9% Nancy hiding these days.
Probably not feeling too well, you know qbs.
Queen Bee Syndrome

Go Sarah Go!!


6 posted on 09/05/2008 7:28:13 AM PDT by mouse1 (McCain/Palin 08 Palin/Jindal 12)
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To: flyfree

Pelosi needs to receive a must attend invitation from her pastor, the bishop, to receive instruction on Catholic doctrine.

If she does not show, or does not listen to the bishop, she should get a letter threatening ex-communication.

If she doesn’t comply, the bishop needs to act on it. It is his spiritual responsibility.

If she repents, fine. She has done a lot of damage, and she acts as if she is under the authority of no one. That’s fine, but that’s not the way it works in the Church.

She can go find another and call herself something else.


7 posted on 09/05/2008 7:28:31 AM PDT by exit82 (The only person that could get me to vote for John McCain is Sarah Palin -God bless her)
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To: flyfree

With all due respect, Archbishop... the longer the answer... the more twisted the logic. I noticed you never truly challenged SanFranNan directly, just invited her to dialogue.

Count me among the unimpressed... again.


8 posted on 09/05/2008 7:30:11 AM PDT by pgyanke (Public "servants" have decided it's their job to use the public's money to fight the public)
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To: flyfree; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
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9 posted on 09/05/2008 7:32:47 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: flyfree
Accordingly, as her pastor, I am writing to invite her into a conversation with me about these matters.

Wow, all those words to invite Nancy to a "conversation"? Uh, with all due respect, Your Excellency, you're dealing with a very public and very unrepentant advocate of abortion on demand who has dared to misrepresent what the Church teaches so that her own ghoulish opinions appear validated.

Nancy needs a crozier upside the head, not a conversation.
10 posted on 09/05/2008 7:33:23 AM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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To: flyfree
Brevity is the soul of wit (and inspires a greater appreciation of clergy.)
11 posted on 09/05/2008 7:37:49 AM PDT by pke
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To: pke

And nuance requires a lawyer.


12 posted on 09/05/2008 7:40:57 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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To: Antoninus

Yes.

I wonder what il Papa thinks of this verbose and nuanced...ummmm... invitation to converse.


13 posted on 09/05/2008 7:44:25 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Antoninus
Accordingly, as her pastor, I am writing to invite her into a conversation with me about these matters.

I see that more as sort of code for "our revels now are ended" -- he knows he's been letting her slide forever and he's signalling her that he can't any longer -- whether pressure from Rome or from the other bishops. Not too long ago (6 months? a year?), he was actually claiming not to know where she stood on abortion, because they'd "never discussed it."

He didn't want to write this at all -- even stylistically, it sounds as if it was painfully ground out, letter by letter. I do think he should be commended for it -- it's rather a small step, and a reluctant one, and one he should have taken long ago. But he's taken it -- maybe a little (lot?) of encouagement will help him keep going!

14 posted on 09/05/2008 7:47:48 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Antoninus

It must begin with a conversation, no?

How else is the bishop to formally correct her and give her an opportunity to submit to true teaching?

You can’t just skip to the sentencing phase.


15 posted on 09/05/2008 7:48:55 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Antoninus

Accordingly, as her pastor, I am writing to invite her into a conversation with me about these matters.

__________________________

This is not an invitation she can blithly ignore. It is a command. She refuses the invitation at her peril.


16 posted on 09/05/2008 7:59:38 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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It must begin with a conversation, no?

Indeed. I'll give him that much credit for at least initiating the process. We'll have to wait and see what happens now.

What will he do if Pelosi ignores him?

My guess is that she'll agree to meet with him and they'll work out a way for Pelosi to continue to appear to be a good Catholic, while attending Emily's List dinners on the sly. But maybe that's just the cynic in me.
17 posted on 09/05/2008 8:03:21 AM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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To: edcoil

I agree with you.


18 posted on 09/05/2008 8:03:33 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: flyfree
What of Catholics who find themselves questioning the teachings of the Church, or experiencing uncertainties and questions about them? The bishops answer, "Some Catholics may not fully understand the Church's doctrinal and moral teachings on certain issues. They may have certain questions and even uncertainties. In situations of honest doubt and confusion, they are welcome to partake of Holy Communion, as long as they are striving to understand what the Church professes and to resolve confusion and doubt."
Bishop Niederauer is throwing Speaker Pelosi a lifeline. He is giving her the benefit of the "doubt," and inviting her to conform to authentic Church teaching through public conversation and thereby repair the widespread confusion she has sewn.

I pray that she accepts the good bishop's invitation.

19 posted on 09/05/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: flyfree
I may be missing a couple of bishops, but here is my count on the Cardinals, Archbishops and Bishops who have spoken out against abortion-supporting politicians.

Cardinal George
Cardinal Egan
Cardinal Rigali
 
Archbishop Chaput
Archbiship Burke
Archbishop Wuerl
Archbishop Niederauer
 
Bishop Conley
Bishop Saltarelli
Bishop Aquila
Bishop Lori 
Bishop Zubik
Bishop Sheridan
Bishop Vasa

20 posted on 09/05/2008 8:20:32 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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