Why Obama Hates America (from Feb 08 but needs to be seen)

Asia Times ^ | Feb 26 08 | Spengler

[theoldmarine]

As I noted in the title this is months old. So maybe not 'news'. But, if you haven't yet seen it.. well worth the read. Great insight by this guy, Spengler. BTW if you missed this post by the same author it is equally insightful and, hopefully, 'foresightful'. "How Obama Lost the Election http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JI03Aa02.html

[SkyDancer]

The thing that gets me is that he's not an American Black. He's part Indonesian and part Kenyan although his mother was white she wasn't married (but that's ok, right?)

He's not really a true descendant of a slave ....

Hope nobody takes this as a racist statement but it's not. It's just an observation.

Respectfully,
Jane

[MrLee]

He’s a descendant of SLAVE TRADERS but no one’s talking about it.....

[SkyDancer]

OK - that slipped by me but you’re right!

[ETL]

I've had this article and other related info up on my FR Profile/Home page for around a month now. Here is what I have...

Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham

"[Ann] Dunham moved to Hawaii to attend the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where she studied anthropology. There she met Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a graduate student from Kenya and the school's first African student, in a Russian class.[2]"
-Scott, Janny (2008-03-14). "A Free-Spirited Wanderer Who Set Obama’s Path", New York Times. Retrieved on 2008-03-21.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#cite_note-freespirit-1

From the Chicago Tribune, March 27, 2007:
"In a recent interview, Obama called his mother 'the dominant figure in my formative years... The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics.' "
Article: Barack Obama: Mother not just a girl from Kansas
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0703270151mar27,0,1310554.story?page=2

From AsiaTimesOnline, Feb 26, 2008
Article: Obama's women reveal his secret

Excerpt from page 1...

"Naivete" is a euphemism for Ann Dunham's motivation. Friends describe her as a "fellow traveler", that is, a communist sympathizer, from her youth, according to a March 27, 2007, Chicago Tribune report. Many Americans harbor leftist views, but not many marry into them, twice. Ann Dunham met and married the Kenyan economics student Barack Obama, Sr, at the University of Hawaii in 1960, and in 1967 married the Indonesian student Lolo Soetero. It is unclear why Soetero's student visa was revoked in 1967 - the fact but not the cause are noted in press accounts. But it is probable that the change in government in Indonesia in 1967, in which the leftist leader Sukarno was deposed, was the motivation. ..."

From page 2 of 2...

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

Stanley Ann Dunham's high school days...

"At Mercer High School, two teachers -- Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman -- generated regular parental thunderstorms by teaching their students to challenge societal norms and question all manner of authority. Foubert, who died recently, taught English. His texts were cutting edge: "Atlas Shrugged," "The Organization Man," "The Hidden Persuaders," "1984" and the acerbic writings of H.L. Mencken.

Wichterman taught philosophy. The hallway between the two classes was known as "anarchy alley," and students pondered the challenging notions of Wichterman's teachings, including such philosophers as Sartre and Kierkegaard. He also touched the societal third rail of the 1950s: He questioned the existence of God. And he didn't stop there.

"I had them read 'The Communist Manifesto,' and the parents went nuts," said Wichterman, adding that parents also didn't want any discussions about "anything to do with sex," religion and theology. The parental protests were known as "mothers' marches."

"The kids started questioning things that their folks thought shouldn't be questioned -- religion, politics, parental authority," said John Hunt, a classmate. "And a lot of parents didn't like that, and they tried to get them [Wichterman and Foubert] fired."

The Dunhams did not join the uproar. Madelyn and Stanley shed their Methodist and Baptist upbringing and began attending Sunday services at the East Shore Unitarian Church in nearby Bellevue.

"In the 1950s, this was sometimes known as 'the little Red church on the hill,' " said Peter Luton, the church's senior minister, referring to the effects of McCarthyism. Skepticism, the kind that Stanley embraced and passed on to his daughter, was welcomed here.

For Stanley Ann, the teachings of Foubert and Wichterman provided an intellectual stimulant and an affirmation that there indeed was an interesting life beyond high school dances, football games and all-night slumber party chatter.

Their high school class was an in-between generation. The Beat generation had passed, and the 1960s era of protest was yet to begin. Classmates of Dunham -- Wall, Blake, Hunt -- felt they were on the cusp of societal change, the distant early warning of the '60s struggles over civil rights, women's rights and war. "If you were concerned about something going wrong in the world, Stanley would know about it first," said Chip Wall, who described her as "a fellow traveler..." "We were liberals before we knew what liberals were."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0703270151mar27,0,1310554.story?page=3

[raybbr]

He’s a descendant of SLAVE TRADERS but no one’s talking about it.....

So. Not only can he speak from the experience of a downtrodden, kept-down on the plantation, racially abused black man. But. He can speak from the guilt-ridden, oppressor point of view.

Awesome!

[CaliforniaCon]

In particular, I jumped on the bit about O’s apparent sociopathic tendencies. That’s EXACTLY how I view him — cold, calculating, something very peculiar about the guy all the way around. Couldn’t put my finger on it before but “sociopath” works for me.

[Clock King]

And no one points out that even ignoring his genetic makeup, he has never experienced life as a “typical black male”. He grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia, then in the “white” suburbs with his grandparents. Then it was off to Columbia and Harvard. Even though his wife is black, it does not mean that he is.

[ETL]

I jumped on the bit about O’s apparent sociopathic tendencies. That’s EXACTLY how I view him — cold, calculating, something very peculiar about the guy all the way around. Couldn’t put my finger on it before but “sociopath” works for me.

From the Boston Globe, August 31, 2008:

[Saul Alinsky's] Son sees father's handiwork in [2008 democrat] convention

ALL THE elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.

The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style. Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness.

It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY
Medfield

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2008/08/31/son_sees_fathers_handiwork_in_convention/

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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

[dalebert]

ya, his mom can be unwed mom but nobody else can.

[mojito]

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. In the Muslim world of the 1960s, nationalism rather than radical Islam was the ideology of choice among the enraged.

These two short sentences speak volumes.

[Veeram]

ping

[imintrouble]

Dunham was a highly educated woman who neglected to obtain a birth certificate for her child Barack (or whatever his name was ?

How odd.

Interesting article - thanks!

[SkyDancer]

I am so livid over the treatment that Sarah and her family are receiving - anybody from any newspaper that should call for opinions I will da** give them one ....

[snowrip]

But... but... but... That’s RACISM!

/sarc

[SkyDancer]

He is so un-Black that he’s White - I am simply gob-smacked (as my Aussie friend says) that anyone could look twice at that man ... how the MSM could go nuts over him is - well I should know - I’ve quit watching the MSM anyway - get my stuff from Rush and FR and Newsbusters .... I wish I knew how to spit I’m so angry at them ....

[litehaus]

Product of TWO Muzzy fathers and an ATHEIST mothers upbringing yields what?

[SkyDancer]

figgered - oh well - so if I vote for Palin/McCain then I’m a racist too ...thing is Obama is not an American Black .... whoops, that’s racist too ... hmmm ... what to do, what to do ...

:)

Janey

[snowrip]

Interesting that “Atlas Shrugged” was on the reading list for her professor... that’s about as anti-socialist, anti-anarchist as you can get.

[mabelkitty]

Nightmare Alley is a bit long, but man, does he nail Tyrone Power as Obama.