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1 posted on 09/04/2008 3:14:45 PM PDT by steve-b
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In the tank for Obama? Nooooooooo...


24 posted on 09/04/2008 3:26:13 PM PDT by bolobaby
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"victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II....

LOL.

26 posted on 09/04/2008 3:26:42 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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So hyperbole in a convention speech is now scrutinized as hard news? The truth is it is accurate to characterize Obama's Iraq War positions as cut and run in the face of victory. He owns that!

ABC News, coming to a grocery store rack near you soon.

29 posted on 09/04/2008 3:28:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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My post to ABC’s site:

Where was the fact check of Obama’s big speech? Perhaps ABC forgot to post it in their quest for fair and balanced reporting? Perhaps Obama offered up no facts to check?

Meanwhile, as usual, the left-wing media has it wrong. Palin was right that Obama never talked about securing victory in Iraq, she was right that he never authored any major legislation (hell, even his minor legislation was BS) and she was completely accurate when she said she put the Alaska jet on eBay.

More of the same from an increasingly panicked left. I can’t wait for November when you f@%tards get your final comeuppance.


30 posted on 09/04/2008 3:29:17 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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I guess it depends on what your definition of “victory” is... I’m pretty sure mine is nothing like Obamas.


31 posted on 09/04/2008 3:29:33 PM PDT by OCC
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All this is about Palin hitting a grand slam last night and there's NOTHING the DBM/Obama can do about it! How absolutely pathetic you must have become to basically be forced to parse words hoping to garner some sympathy.

There will be major blowback if they think they're going to out do Palin with this tripe!

33 posted on 09/04/2008 3:33:17 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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Writes Russel Goldman of the ABC wing of the Obama campaign...

...[Obama said] true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation ...That's victory. That's success. ... and that's why I will end this war as President.

Hmm.

As I read this, Marxist Obama says, explicitly, that a military victory is not a victory; however that a "political accommodation" IS a victory.

"Political accommodation?" Yes, Marxist Obama would use his vast community organizer experience have the U.S. military leave in non-victory (aka defeat), and HOPE that the bad guys submit to conflict resolution.

(Nervous laughter.)

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34 posted on 09/04/2008 3:34:58 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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While a state senator in Illinois, he sponsored two contentious bills

LOL well ok then.

I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work. FACT: ......When the deal fell through with the sole eBay bidder, the plane was sold offline.

SO? She still had put it on ebay. Duh.

Palin drives herself to work. In July, her Chevy Suburban was rear-ended while driving from Wasilla to her office in downtown Anchorage.

Not sure what the libs point is on this one...probably in the lib world anyone as important as the Messiah should have someone else drive b/c it's not in his pay grade. Or if someone else is driving then the Silky Pony can get more in a lawsuit.
36 posted on 09/04/2008 3:38:37 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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Writes Russel Goldman of the ABC wing of the Obama campaign...

...[Obama said] true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation ...That's victory. That's success. ... and that's why I will end this war as President.

Hmm.

As I read this, Marxist Obama says, explicitly, that a military victory is not a victory; however that a "political accommodation" IS a victory.

"Political accommodation?" Yes, Marxist Obama would use his vast community organizer experience have the U.S. military leave in non-victory (aka defeat), and HOPE that the bad guys submit to conflict resolution.

(Nervous laughter.)

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37 posted on 09/04/2008 3:38:40 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Maybe ABC could ask Obama about the handover of Anbar Province? Used the word "victory" talking about the Allies and WWII? Hillary's healthcare plan? Is this some kind of joke, ABC. This guy has done hundreds of campaign stops over two years and the very dirth of the term "victory" is essentially as Gov. Palin stated.

As to cosponsoring some legislation with his senior Senator, Durbin, how many times has he mentioned that in stump speeches? Yes it's seared in our memory.

I would not be surprised if Obama had no role in crafting it but needless to say (and yes to some of our chagrin) McCain can claim many times over legislation he proposed or was the mainh co-sponsor.

As far as "contentious" legislation on racial profiling and recording of "potential death penalty" cases is nothing of great political risk in liberal Illinois/Chicago.

Without going any further the fact is that I haven't seen ABC slice-and-dice Obama's acceptance speech last year, I mean week. Or ever.

ABC and their Democrat Media Ilk really are beyond non-credible.

41 posted on 09/04/2008 3:44:04 PM PDT by torchthemummy (The Democrat Media Wears No Clothes)
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A week later in Berlin, Germany on July 23, Obama used the word "victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II....

I could be wrong but I don't think America is fighting World War II at the present time.

42 posted on 09/04/2008 3:46:18 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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Palin said wars America IS fighting. WWII is long over, so

FACT: talking about victory in WWII is not relevant to what Palin said.

Anyone also notice that the first date the reporter cites as ‘evidence’ is JULY 15, not even two months ago? On Iraq. How long has the surge been succeeding?

That’s far more damning to Obama than Palin.


43 posted on 09/04/2008 3:53:47 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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This article is satire about how the media has gone from bias to having given up any pretense of intellectual honesty, right?

Without having read the thread, I’m sure many have already taken apart this article so I won’t bother.


44 posted on 09/04/2008 3:54:44 PM PDT by HundredDollars ( Mayors, Governors and Presidents Don't have the Option to Vote 'Present.')
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Captain Hyperbole!

OMG! They've got us against the wall now! OMG!

46 posted on 09/04/2008 3:57:30 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (She has a stronger resume than Obama. She's been a real mayor, he hasn't. She has been a real govern)
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"...victory in Iraq -- will not take place..."

OK, if you think that proves your point.

Considering that Obama says roughly 40 million words a day and that his incoherent thoughts look they were randomly pulled from a Scrabble bag, it's mathematically possible that you can always find some example somewhere of Obama putting any two words into one sentence. But to suggest that Obama is gung-ho for the US Military to be victorious in Iraq is laughable.
48 posted on 09/04/2008 4:02:07 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama's speechwriter was 10 years old when Sarah Palin was first elected to public office.)
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Obama used the word "victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II

So 60 years after we win in Iraq, Obama will grudgingly concede that we won?
49 posted on 09/04/2008 4:03:46 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama's speechwriter was 10 years old when Sarah Palin was first elected to public office.)
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Well, thanks to Russell Goldman's investigative reporting I can now sleep better knowing that he will protect me by cataloging the number of times Obama says a word. The only reason this narcissistic piece was published was that it is a Palin hit piece.
51 posted on 09/04/2008 4:12:32 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (McCain will screw the conservatives, but, Obama will screw the whole country.)
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Why don’t these idiot reporters with nothing to do check every time Obama has said “I passed legislation on...”.

One legislator can’t pass anything, and to claim they do is arrogant in the extreme.


52 posted on 09/04/2008 4:18:17 PM PDT by BigBobber
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Whats this? The Obama can lie like a dog about McCain and sic the lieing liberal press on his running mate but No one can say anything about Obamer. Lol! And how dare them say anything about anyones pregnant daughter. How married were Obamas parents?


53 posted on 09/04/2008 4:22:49 PM PDT by dalebert
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Picking nits comes to mind.


54 posted on 09/04/2008 4:41:03 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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