Posted on 09/04/2008 3:14:45 PM PDT by steve-b
In a rousing speech at last night's Republican National Convention, vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, touted her record, attacked the opposition, and in some cases bent the facts.
PALIN: "[Obama] is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word 'victory' except when he's talking about his own campaign."
FACT: On July 15, in a speech in Washington, D.C., Obama twice used the word "victory" in reference to Iraq.
"In fact," he said, "true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation necessary for long-term stability. That's victory. That's success. That's what's best for Iraq, that's what's best for America, and that's why I will end this war as President.A week later in Berlin, Germany on July 23, Obama used the word "victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II....
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In fact, Obama almost directly echoed the hippie peaceniks of the Vietnam days who demanded: "Bug out, and declare victory!"
I just googled that phrase and found this memory of that time from The Nation:
It was this period when Senator George Aiken, Republican of Vermont, uttered his famous solution: "Declare victory and get out." The great tragedy was that Johnson, either too willful or too worried about history's judgment, would not yield. Instead, it destroyed his presidency.
Here's a thought ...
In the tank for Obama? Nooooooooo...
Sorry missed count, we’re up to 5 times, not 4. It’s still in as many fingers of one hand
LOL.
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That’s what I thought. He used the word victory in a negative sense concerning Iraq, and in regards to the past in Germany. Proving that Sarah was right.
ABC News, coming to a grocery store rack near you soon.
My post to ABC’s site:
Where was the fact check of Obama’s big speech? Perhaps ABC forgot to post it in their quest for fair and balanced reporting? Perhaps Obama offered up no facts to check?
Meanwhile, as usual, the left-wing media has it wrong. Palin was right that Obama never talked about securing victory in Iraq, she was right that he never authored any major legislation (hell, even his minor legislation was BS) and she was completely accurate when she said she put the Alaska jet on eBay.
More of the same from an increasingly panicked left. I can’t wait for November when you f@%tards get your final comeuppance.
I guess it depends on what your definition of “victory” is... I’m pretty sure mine is nothing like Obamas.
PALIN: "[Obama] is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting
Are we still fighting WWII? I guess it depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
There will be major blowback if they think they're going to out do Palin with this tripe!
...[Obama said] true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation ...That's victory. That's success. ... and that's why I will end this war as President.
Hmm.
As I read this, Marxist Obama says, explicitly, that a military victory is not a victory; however that a "political accommodation" IS a victory.
"Political accommodation?" Yes, Marxist Obama would use his vast community organizer experience have the U.S. military leave in non-victory (aka defeat), and HOPE that the bad guys submit to conflict resolution.
(Nervous laughter.)
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Aren’t you the Obama defender...ROFLMTO, the only reference I’ve heard Obama say about victory was in accordance with his own campaign, which isn’t going to happen. period.
...[Obama said] true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation ...That's victory. That's success. ... and that's why I will end this war as President.
Hmm.
As I read this, Marxist Obama says, explicitly, that a military victory is not a victory; however that a "political accommodation" IS a victory.
"Political accommodation?" Yes, Marxist Obama would use his vast community organizer experience have the U.S. military leave in non-victory (aka defeat), and HOPE that the bad guys submit to conflict resolution.
(Nervous laughter.)
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No idea what happened.
ABC ball-washing for Obama (can I say that?)
“victory in Iraq — will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms.”
That’s all I need to know. Obama wants one of those “Peace with Honor” type arrangements that Nixon did (pretty much had to do with all of the protests back home), but like the Dems back then, walk away from their support to Vietnam/Iraq and have it all collapse.
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