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To: LearsFool
The argument I made is that “the state > the family” is fascism.

Actually it's not. Fascism is forced collectivism through the government. Do some studying. I suggest "Liberal Fascism" and "Road to Serfdom".

You ARE attempting to equate love of one's country, and the VOLUNTARY feeling of duty to do what's right by it, with fascism,

which is just another way of saying "you don't agree with me, so you're like Hitler" - Godwin's Law of online newsgroups/blogs/etc.

And even then, you're asserting something that you don't know, the logic fallacy of "attributing motive", on Palin, by stating that she's putting "the state"

(which implies the power of the state, which is ENTIRELY different than the application of patriotism)

above her duty to family.

That's enough - from my first point above, it's clear you're not equipped with enough information to continue to argue your point.

82 posted on 09/04/2008 12:12:32 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

Well you’re very kind to grace with a reply someone as ignorant and misinformed as myself. And it’s doubly-kind of you to present an argument unadorned with fallacies and insults.

If I might be so bold as to make a humble suggestion to your superior intellect, however: Retrace the discussion which was underway before you interjected yourself, as I have little time and less patience for prolonged debates on irrelevancies and hypotheticals.

(Sheesh. What, do you just search on the term “fascist” and interject your “Fascism for Dummies” spiel? Trace that “state > family” idea all the way back to Plato, who also tried to mask its poison under the guise of “patriotism”. Will we never be rid of such foolishness?)


83 posted on 09/04/2008 12:41:32 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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