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Hedge funds caught out as Hurricane Gustav fails to lift oil price(Gustav destroys hedge funds)
Times of London ^ | 09/04/08 | Miles Costello

Posted on 09/03/2008 6:53:41 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Hedge funds caught out as Hurricane Gustav fails to lift oil price

Miles Costello

Several hedge funds face big financial losses after wrongly predicting that oil and gas prices would rise as a result of Hurricane Gustav slamming into the Gulf coast of the US earlier this week.

As Gustav swept towards New Orleans on Monday, catastrophe experts were predicting insured losses of up to $7 billion (£3.9 billion) as offshore oil rigs faced destruction and the storm threatened energy supplies.

Commodities hedge funds saw the glum prediction as an opportunity, betting heavily, using the futures market, that prices would surge in the wake of the hurricane chaos.

In New York, crude oil leapt to $116 a barrel in the hours before Gustav hit the US coastline. On Nymex, natural gas futures rose 45.3 cents to $8.278 per 1,000 cubic feet. However, the experts, and the hedge funds, were caught out. By the time the storm was sending water lapping over New Orleans’s flood barriers, Gustav had been downgraded by the National Hurricane Centre to a Category 1 event. Oil eased to $105.46, with dealers soon speculating that it would fall to $100.

(Excerpt) Read more at business.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: commodities; energy; energyprices; gustav; hedgefund; oil; oilprice
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1 posted on 09/03/2008 6:53:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/03/2008 6:54:44 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 09/03/2008 6:54:54 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; gonzo

These people just love betting on the misery of the people, about time they get their just reward of going broke like they have tried to do with the resources in this country!


4 posted on 09/03/2008 6:58:10 PM PDT by TommyJoe
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Congress needs to investigate these speculators for excess prof..., oh losses?


5 posted on 09/03/2008 7:03:20 PM PDT by jimfree (Dems beat up girls who don't toe the line.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

All together: awwwwwwwww.


6 posted on 09/03/2008 7:03:29 PM PDT by nevs911 (Cops Lie.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
These are adults betting on the weather?
7 posted on 09/03/2008 7:03:34 PM PDT by cmj328
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Good, let them choke on the oil price for once.


8 posted on 09/03/2008 7:03:47 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: nevs911

Smart money, doncha know?


9 posted on 09/03/2008 7:04:05 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hedge funds are nothing but a bet. For every winner, there is a looser. Anyone who puts serious money into a hedge fund deserves whatever he gets. To further invest in a hedge that bets on the weather is even more stupid.


10 posted on 09/03/2008 7:04:18 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Amazing how they make a positive into a negative.

Who cares if the hedge fund lost money.


11 posted on 09/03/2008 7:04:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: TommyJoe
These people just love betting on the misery of the people

A little melodramatic? The funds were speculating that resource shortages would affect futures prices, which is what the capital markets are designed to accommodate.

about time they get their just reward of going broke like they have tried to do with the resources in this country!

Tried to make make resources go broke? I thought hedge funds were frequently accused of creating artificial demand leading to a commodity bubble in the first place.

12 posted on 09/03/2008 7:04:55 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kinda sucks when your Cat 5 monster gets downgraded to a Cat 2 just before making landfall.


13 posted on 09/03/2008 7:10:47 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Joe Biden's first wife Neilia Hunter killed herself and their daughter.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ya places yer bets and ya takes yer hits.

These hedge funds are no more irresponsible than the lenders giving out 120% mortgages to obviously risky borrowers, in the expectation that housing values would go up 20% a year forever.

Chris Dodd going to bail them out too? With your money?

PS I admit to some small pleasure at seeing these funds taking their hits. Petty I know, but too bad.


14 posted on 09/03/2008 7:11:10 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Dumbarses.


15 posted on 09/03/2008 7:12:23 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Iran, Venezuela, and Russia have become dependent on sky high oil prices to make their various mischief. If he price drops down to reasonable levels again, many of their schemes are going to be in deep trouble.

Iran and Venezuela in particular are barely holding on despite the high price. If it drops too low, Nutjob and El Supremo may soon be out of a job.


16 posted on 09/03/2008 7:51:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Good thing Chelsea Clinton doesn’t actually have to do anything to earn her salary or else she might be in big trouble right now.


17 posted on 09/03/2008 8:25:56 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wondering where the Algore acolytes work?


18 posted on 09/03/2008 9:27:10 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I don’t ever want to see another post whining about outlawing “naked” short positions just because you don’t like expensive gas.

This is a clear example of the free market in action. They had an opinion, bet the house on it, and were miserably wrong. If the money people made shorting weak companies isn’t legit, then you better be opening your checkbook to bail out the losses these guys just took.

TANSTAAFL still applies.


19 posted on 09/03/2008 9:53:58 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: TigerLikesRooster

couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of theives. Sooner these $#$%ing things go belly up, the sooner Oil will be back at 35-45 a bbl where it belongs.


20 posted on 09/03/2008 9:55:47 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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