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On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama!
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Posted on 09/01/2008 1:34:29 PM PDT by neverdem

On the Second Amendment,
Don't Believe Obama!

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The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where apparent nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for "sportsmen" or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don't listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career. Obama

FACT: Barack Obama voted against the confirmation of 2 of the 5 Justices that affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research."8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog,, 2/15/08. (

5. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2004 SB 2165, vote 20.

6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (

7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (

14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes ( and Oct 21, 2004.

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.


Obama Supports D.C. Gun Ban

Obama on registering the nation's gun owners

Concealed Carry

"...I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry," Obama said. Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004

Ammunition Retrictions -- "micro-stamping"

"There was a discussion today about a law that has just passed in California that allows micro-tracing of bullets that have been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be traced," he said. "This is something that California has passed over the strong objections of the NRA...That's the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind." Barack Obama, Feb. 15, 2008 Baltimore Feb. 15, 2008

Local Gun Bans

"I think that local jurisdictions have the capacity to institute their own gun laws...The City of Chicago has gun laws, as does Washington, D.C.," he said. Barack Obama, Feb. 15, 2008 Baltimore

Licensing and Registering gun owners

Q: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?

A: I don't think that we can get that done.

2008 Democratic debate in Las Vegas  Jan 15, 2008

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There are five videos at the source that I have been unable to link with the source code. I tried listening to two of them. I heard nothing. I could read the "bitter" one. It was captioned.
1 posted on 09/01/2008 1:34:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Note: The slogan was originally posted to FR by Renfield. Islander7 created the graphic. I've merely taken the initiative in publicizing it. It's so good, it may well be the "Sore/Loserman" of the 2008 election.

If you want change in Washington D.C.

I mean you really want change.

Do you vote for the Fighter Pilot and the mother of 5?

Or do you vote for the two Lawyers?

2 posted on 09/01/2008 1:41:17 PM PDT by sourcery (Social Justice. n. 1. Enslavement of those who work for the benefit of those who don't.)
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To: neverdem

BHO is a Demo politician who lives in Chicago and owes his election victories to the Chicago Machine. That’s all you need to know to know how he feels about firearm rights.

3 posted on 09/01/2008 1:43:45 PM PDT by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: neverdem

Obama should NOT be believed on any subject..
He is a professional liar, not unlike most Islamists.

4 posted on 09/01/2008 1:46:09 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: neverdem


5 posted on 09/01/2008 1:52:22 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..Viva La Reagan revolcuccion!)
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To: river rat


6 posted on 09/01/2008 1:59:36 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: neverdem

No need to get that involved. Basically the guy is a Communist and the first things Communist do is disarm the people.

7 posted on 09/01/2008 2:01:08 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA ( Choice 2008 McCain =Hero, Obama = Zero. Palin = Fresh - Biden = Stale)
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To: river rat
Glad you wrote about lying Islamists because he is one - of the first degree.
8 posted on 09/01/2008 2:05:37 PM PDT by mcshot (Bitterly Loving God, Family, and Guns more then ever. And greatly missing President Reagan)
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To: neverdem
Of course I don't believe that Obama would be OK on the 2nd Amendment, does anyone? No seriously ... does anyone think Obama will get even a single NRA member to vote for him (apart from those Michael Moore types who joined so they could tear the organization down)? Does anyone know even a single gun owner who will vote for him?

I'm in New Jersey for god's sake and I don't know a single gun owner who would take the man seriously. They may stay home (although I doubt it after McCain's Veep pick) but they aren't voting for Obama.

9 posted on 09/01/2008 2:42:23 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - - RadioFree NJ)
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To: sourcery

I wouldn’t believe Husseim about anything.

10 posted on 09/01/2008 2:57:51 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: imahawk

And hear again!

11 posted on 09/01/2008 2:58:45 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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Sarah Palin and Joe Biden: Worlds Apart

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12 posted on 09/01/2008 11:25:24 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: river rat; neverdem
“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.”
Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto -

Disarming America will have to start at the grassroots level.
13 posted on 09/01/2008 11:46:27 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!

14 posted on 09/02/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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