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Caucasus crisis (Serbia and Georgia victimes of Oil pipelines)
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/stories/20080912251804900.htm ^ | Irali Genidze

Posted on 08/31/2008 2:55:39 PM PDT by kronos77

To be sure, the killing of tens of hundreds of people in the Caucasian region of South Ossetia in a sudden military onslaught by Georgia will turn out to be a landmark event in post-Soviet Russia’s relations with the West. Conceivably, a chapter in the post-Cold War era is ending. Blood has been drawn in the Caucasus, which history shows, is never easy to wipe away. Feuds are known to run for decades even if they bear verisimilitude to family squabbles.

The crisis in southern Caucasus was slowly building up ever since Kosovo, the breakaway province of Serbia, declared independence in February. Historians will assess Kosovo’s independence as a bend in the post-Soviet transition of Eurasia. Kosovo’s independence was not inevitable, but the United States precipitated it since it was geopolitically desirable and quite achievable. It was a masterstroke in geopolitics. It served many purposes.

First and foremost, it decisively advanced the U.S. agenda of purging the Balkans of Russia’s presence as a Slavic power, which began with the systematic dismantling of the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s. It was a pre-requisite to shaping the Black Sea region – another playpen of Russian history – as a U.S. “sphere of influence” so that the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) can take a leap forward to the Caucasus, the notoriously soft underbelly of the Russian empire.

The agenda is still unfolding. The entities that were born out of the Yugoslav state are being systematically inducted into NATO; the U.S. has set up military bases in Romania and Bulgaria and has become for the first time a “Black Sea power”; NATO conducted its first-ever military exercise in the Black Sea with Ukraine in July; NATO membership for Georgia (and Ukraine) is on the table.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blacksea; caucasus; energy; geopolitics; georgia; kosovo; ossetia; russia; southossetia

1 posted on 08/31/2008 2:55:40 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77

RUSSIA !!! LAY DOWN YOUR ARMS !!! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE !!! WE GOT A LADY WHO KNOW’S HOW TO DEAL WITH “ THE RUSSIAN BEAR !!!


2 posted on 08/31/2008 2:59:42 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...
Now, look carefully. "Nabucco" pipeline starts in Georgia, and goes across Turkey and Bulgaria up to Former Yugoslavia. NOW. Watch closely where it crosses former Yugoslavia! regions of Kosovo, Bosnia, Croatia All of those regions were occupied by NATO forces, and Kosovo is so important that was stolen from Serbia.
3 posted on 08/31/2008 3:00:32 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Lasha

Ping!


4 posted on 08/31/2008 3:01:15 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

ah to late for no blood for oil


5 posted on 08/31/2008 3:04:08 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: kronos77
The Oily Tracks Running Through Kosovo

by Michael Savage

(Originally published 11/20/99 by Newsmax.com)
6 posted on 08/31/2008 3:11:06 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kronos77

Innerestin’


7 posted on 08/31/2008 3:26:33 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: kronos77
Nabucco avoids Serbia.

The only folks talking about building a pipeline anywhere near you are the Russians, whom you so kindly offered up a controlling stake in your national petroleum company.

Do you have to work hard to be so clueless, or is it simply a Serbian national characteristic?

Either way, enjoy working with the Russians. You two deserve each other.

8 posted on 08/31/2008 3:52:58 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: kronos77
To be sure, the killing of tens of hundreds of people in the Caucasian region of South Ossetia in a sudden military onslaught by Georgia...

One can stop reading the article after the above misinformation.

It's ironic to see a Serb spreading misinformation about Georgia.

Georgia has long stood with the Serbs in not recognizing Kosovo. This is the bloody thanks that they get.

9 posted on 08/31/2008 6:34:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Hoplite; kronos77
Nabucco avoids Serbia. The only folks talking about building a pipeline anywhere near you(kronos77) are the Russians, whom you so kindly offered up a controlling stake in your national petroleum company.

Yes, here's the imagine from Hoplite's link (just in case kronos77 doesn't know how to read).


10 posted on 08/31/2008 6:38:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kronos77

Look at the posts above - quite indeed as I thought; there is no particular need to run this pipeline through Serbia or kosovo, or any other republics for that matter; it’s only an alternative and not a geographical must - unlike, unfortunately in the case of Georgia, considering on-going war between Armenia and Azerbaijan and issue of bordering Iran...

Indeed, dude, Georgia never recognized Kosovo’s independence; and believe me, there were much talks with the US representatives here about it... of course we could not do anything about it, but at least concerns were voiced - just take my word on this!


11 posted on 08/31/2008 11:44:03 PM PDT by Lasha
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To: Hoplite
..."or is it simply a Serbian national characteristic?"

...It's in our genes Hoplite...Happy Labor Day:-)

L.R.

12 posted on 09/01/2008 3:20:19 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Hoplite
I have seen this route map...

Are those future extensions of Nabucco? And is South Stream accurate?

13 posted on 09/01/2008 7:47:40 PM PDT by B2orNotB2
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To: B2orNotB2
Follow the first link in my #8 - takes you right to Nabucco's website, where you can find the most accurate info on that particular project.

As to where South Stream is going to go, they signed on Serbia this year, but I don't know that the route(s) is/are set yet, other than passing under the Black sea and coming ashore in Bulgaria.

14 posted on 09/01/2008 9:09:18 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: kronos77
Nabucco is great project - to pump water from the Alps to thirsty customers in The Stans.

Well, it was not the original intention, but that's the only use it can have.

15 posted on 09/04/2008 6:34:08 AM PDT by DTA
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To: FreeReign

“Georgia has long stood with the Serbs in not recognizing Kosovo. This is the bloody thanks that they get.”

Serbia was an extremely loyal ally of the US in WWI and WWII, and pretty much anything else for that matter. What was the bloody thanks they got?!? What you and many other posters like Mr. Tailgunner Joe, who honestly believes Serbs pray to Putin and Russia every morning, need to realize is that if there’s anything the Serbs learned in the last 20 years or so, it’s that there are no real allies anymore. Only countries temporarily uniting their might for the accomplishment of mutual goals.


16 posted on 09/05/2008 8:39:34 PM PDT by Serb29 ("A nation that expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be")
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