New Stats: Europe Facing Demographic Winter, Growing Political, Economic Tensions

LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/29/08 | Hilary White

[wagglebee]

With population growth and economic growth closely connected, some are predicting that the demographic crisis will begin to exacerbate historic tensions between countries and regions and various ethnic groups. Barry McLerran, producer of the film "Demographic Winter: the decline of the human family", said Russia's population crisis was an overlooked factor in its recent invasion of Georgia.

This is nothing more than the natural result of socialism.

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[reaganixonbush]

This is nothing more than the natural result of socialism.
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You can add immorality to that. Well, the Muzzies breed faster than the Euros, so they are a lost cause.

[SumProVita]

Actually it’s secular humanism founded on Marxist principles and the supreme worship of sexual license.

Short description: contraceptive mentality

[redgolum]

And the Catholic countries are as bad as the Protestant (or worse in some cases).

My grandpa once said “All the religious Christians got the He## out of Europe a long time ago.” At times I think he was right.

[redgolum]

That is a big part of it. And the fact that much of Europe (excluding Poland and other small areas) is post Christian.

They have been worshiping their own lusts for decades now, and that doesn’t translate to kids very well.

What is funny is that even with all the debaucher here, we still have a higher birthrate. Even excluding illegal immigrants.

[wagglebee]

It certainly seems that Europeans tend to be far less devout Christians than Americans and this holds true regardless of whether they are Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox.

[wagglebee]

I agree, I just used “socialism” as a blanket term.

[wagglebee]

Very true.

[wendy1946]

The problem is social pressures in the direction of putting off marriage and children until late twenties or thirties. Humans are biologically programmed to marry and have children in their late teens. That has to become possible and reasonable again.

[Puppage]

This is nothing more than the natural result of socialism

Coming soon to our shores, I am afraid.

[TASMANIANRED]

1)Socialism
2)Abortion
3)Environmentalism.

[wagglebee]

They all go together.

[victim soul]

Who wants to kill off the peoples who live Judeo-Christian values?

[rbg81]

Where is the motivation for people to have kids anymore?

1. Kids cost $$ (lots of it)
2. Kids get in the way of having fun and buying stuff we want
3. Kids are a lot of work and trouble. They require much more emotional involvement than sending a text message.
4. They force you to think about something other than yourself (a big change for most people)
5. You have big Government to take care of you in your old age (who needs kids?)

Of course, those of us with kids know the rewards. IMHO, raising a child is one of the most trying and fulfulling things you can do as a human being.

Also, if you are paying big bucks in taxes, having a kid on top of that is a major crimp on your lifestyle. And if you are not religious, that is one less reason for taking the plunge.

In the West, we have created a very advanced, affluent, &liberal society without giving a lot of thought to what the implications were to fundamental human behaviors. Over the next 100 years, we are going to find out the hard way. Many blame Socialism for this, but in truth, materialism, feminism, technology and secularism are at least as much to blame—it is a perfect story of all these factors. Fixing the damage will be a tough nut to crack all right.

[wintertime]

The problem is social pressures in the direction of putting off marriage and children until late twenties or thirties. Humans are biologically programmed to marry and have children in their late teens. That has to become possible and reasonable again.
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I think Charles Murray has the right idea. We should have credentialing exams designed and administered by private companies. This would shorten an unnecessarily long education.

Children who passed the credentialing exam could move on to the next level regardless of age.

Much of what passes as “education” in K-12 and college is NOT education. It is indoctrination.

Kids could get the credentials they need and move on with living, life, marriage, and children.

[rbg81]

Well and good, but the problem is the advanced society. You need educated people to do the complex things our society requires—and that requires either education or On the Job training. Most of the job that people could take out of high school have moved overseas—or given to illegals. That means, you can’t make a decent wage at those jobs anymore. Parents wants the best for their kids. No middle class parent wants their kid to end up less skilled or affluent than they are.