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California plans to drug depressed patients to death
WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/29/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 08/30/2008 10:21:12 AM PDT by wagglebee

Just as Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama was in Denver preaching to a crowd of thousands of fans about the "change" he wants to see in the United States, his party compatriots in the California Legislature were making a "change," by approving a controversial plan that would allow nurses to assist terminally ill patients with suicide.

"AB 2747 allows a physician assistant or a nurse to opine that a patient is 'terminal,' and then push for unnatural death by 'palliative sedation,'" said Randy Thomasson, chief of the Campaign for Children and Families shortly after the vote.

"Depressed patients who succumb to this pressure will be drugged unconscious and die from dehydration, usually within five to 10 days. Nothing in the bill prohibits this horror," he said.

Forty-two Democrats in California voted in favor of the plan: 30 Republicans and two Democrats opposed the plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab2747; california; callegislation; euthanasia; healthcare; liberals; moralabsolutes; nazis; obama; prolife
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According to the CCF report, Assemblyman Van Tran of Costa Mesa warned the bill has no protections for patients "who could be mistakenly diagnosed as 'terminally ill' but would have many, many full years of life ahead."

That's because the culture of death doesn't actually care.

1 posted on 08/30/2008 10:21:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/30/2008 10:21:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/30/2008 10:22:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

We’re talking “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” here.


4 posted on 08/30/2008 10:25:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS are a visible reminder of what it was like before people became civilized.)
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To: wagglebee

Isn’t this murder. Imagine a nurse saying you should die.

My apologies to the good nurses of America.


5 posted on 08/30/2008 10:31:03 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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AB 2747 allows a physician assistant or a nurse to opine that a patient is 'terminal,' and then push for unnatural death by 'palliative sedation

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Imagine having a nurse or a PA decide whether one lives or dies. That is truly frightening.

6 posted on 08/30/2008 10:34:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Under Obama. The good news: you got your “free” health care. The bad news: it’s a free cyanide capsule “good” for whatever ails you.


7 posted on 08/30/2008 10:34:36 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: wagglebee

free healthcare right? it’s the new fad.


8 posted on 08/30/2008 10:35:48 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: wagglebee

I truly doubt that a nurse would be allowed to make that decision...or even the doctor. I’d like to see the wording of this bill.


9 posted on 08/30/2008 10:39:34 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: wagglebee

WOW. Now nurses and not just doctors getting into the act of murder.

I once was in a hospital, and the nurse can in the middle of the night to give a pill. She said it was the doctor wanted me to have, that I had asked for. Problem was, I didn’t ask for any pill. She had the wrong bed.

Mistakes can happen here.


10 posted on 08/30/2008 10:41:40 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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11 posted on 08/30/2008 10:42:01 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: Hildy

Here is a link to the latest revision:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_2701-2750/ab_2747_bill_20080813_amended_sen_v93.html


12 posted on 08/30/2008 10:42:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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California and the radical left have now outlawed the hippocratic oath:

I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepios and Hygeia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant: To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else. I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice. I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work. Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves. What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about. If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

14 posted on 08/30/2008 10:46:45 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: wagglebee

What it says is that if the patient requests information, the health care shall provide it. If for whatever reason the health care provider doesn’t want to provide it (against religion, etc.) just give them a referral. It doesn’t say that the health care provider can go ahead and kill them. Stop being so dramatic. (Our truce didn’t last too long, did it! LOL!!!! — still love ya!)


15 posted on 08/30/2008 10:48:14 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: wagglebee

Give the government complete control over your life, and they will have complete control over your DEATH.


16 posted on 08/30/2008 11:07:36 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is Communism by the drink - P.J. O'Roarke)
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To: trisham

As a clinically depressed person mostly out of the depression, I’m very scared about that sort of power being given to ANYONE, let alone the family doctor and nurses.

Thank God I don’t live in California!

What about if the person doesn’t WANT to die???


17 posted on 08/30/2008 11:15:03 AM PDT by lil_rebbitzen ("A Christian Gentleman is a patient wolf who will wait until the honeymoon." - Blurblogger)
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What about if the person doesn’t WANT to die???

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Exactly. Is it really their decision under this proposed law? It's really unbelievable. What kind of person will be attracted to the medical profession if this law passes?

18 posted on 08/30/2008 11:22:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Hildy
It reads “This bill would provide that when a health care provider, as defined, makes a diagnosis that a patient has a terminal illness”

When the health care provider, determines-
You know, when you benefits run out or coverage dries up

Stop being so naive

19 posted on 08/30/2008 12:38:02 PM PDT by RepublicanHostageinCalif (Want to know what the Dems can do? Just look what they've done to Calif)
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To: RepublicanHostageinCalif

You don’t think very highly of people, do you?


20 posted on 08/30/2008 12:53:07 PM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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