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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50

“No one is promoting government-ordered prayer to a particular God or mandatory attendance at a particular church.”

No, but Palin apparently wants to see her idea of science taught in schools. She believes that her government actions are following “God’s Plan”, apparently communicated to her, and part of the same “God’s Plan” executed through our foreign policy which has brought devastation to my co-religionists and your fellow Christians.

“But if we decide it is MORAL to separate religion from politics then aren’t we really saying that morality itself has no place in politics?”

Absolutely not. Kosta dealt with that well in his discussion of Japanese society.

“Among those most of us would objectively say behave “morally”, the vast majority of them would cite their faith as the source. Why should they not talk about that?”

Here, maybe, though I can, and have, argued that morality is the result of people living in larger or smaller societies, not religion. If you were dropped into a South American jungle on top of those isolated indigenous people we saw pictures of here on FR not long ago, and you ran up to one and simply grabbed his spear or beads or whatever, or tried to rape his wife, he come after you. He’d know what you had done was wrong without the benefit of any missionary teaching him about Christianity. Now, I suppose that Palin speaking about her religious beliefs is indeed something to be thankful for since forewarned is forearmed.


570 posted on 09/09/2008 3:17:59 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

Palin didn’t say we should teach creationism in schools. She said people should be allowed to discuss it when talking about Evolution and science.


575 posted on 09/09/2008 3:31:47 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Marysecretary; xzins
FK: “No one is promoting government-ordered prayer to a particular God or mandatory attendance at a particular church.”

No, but Palin apparently wants to see her idea of science taught in schools.

Oh horrors! Imagine teaching the truth in a school. I have seen the left smearing her on this already. What she favors is teaching both. Here is an excerpt from a newspaper article during her gubernatorial campaign: 'Creation science' enters the race GOVERNOR: Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools. .

Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Read the article if you want to know what her real position is. It is less than I would like, but good enough for me to support. Do you think it is inappropriate to teach creationism, or at least ID, alongside the theory of evolution?

She believes that her government actions are following “God’s Plan”, apparently communicated to her, and part of the same “God’s Plan” executed through our foreign policy which has brought devastation to my co-religionists and your fellow Christians.

I think your "apparently" goes WAY beyond anything you can reasonably hold Palin accountable for. You are either ascribing to her things she never said, OR you are unhappy that she believes what all Bible-believing Christians believe. NOT believing that God has a plan puts you in the distinct minority of all Americans. So on that, Sarah is "normal" and you guys are on the outside. :)

Now, I suppose that Palin speaking about her religious beliefs is indeed something to be thankful for since forewarned is forearmed.

Yes, that's what I'm saying (even though you appear disposed against Palin). At least you know more about what makes her tick. By the same token I notice that Obama and Biden WANT to be known as good Christian men, by their respective statements. I am glad to have the information to know they are both phonies.

603 posted on 09/10/2008 6:08:11 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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