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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Marysecretary; xzins
FK: “No one is promoting government-ordered prayer to a particular God or mandatory attendance at a particular church.”

No, but Palin apparently wants to see her idea of science taught in schools.

Oh horrors! Imagine teaching the truth in a school. I have seen the left smearing her on this already. What she favors is teaching both. Here is an excerpt from a newspaper article during her gubernatorial campaign: 'Creation science' enters the race GOVERNOR: Palin is only candidate to suggest it should be discussed in schools. .

Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."

Read the article if you want to know what her real position is. It is less than I would like, but good enough for me to support. Do you think it is inappropriate to teach creationism, or at least ID, alongside the theory of evolution?

She believes that her government actions are following “God’s Plan”, apparently communicated to her, and part of the same “God’s Plan” executed through our foreign policy which has brought devastation to my co-religionists and your fellow Christians.

I think your "apparently" goes WAY beyond anything you can reasonably hold Palin accountable for. You are either ascribing to her things she never said, OR you are unhappy that she believes what all Bible-believing Christians believe. NOT believing that God has a plan puts you in the distinct minority of all Americans. So on that, Sarah is "normal" and you guys are on the outside. :)

Now, I suppose that Palin speaking about her religious beliefs is indeed something to be thankful for since forewarned is forearmed.

Yes, that's what I'm saying (even though you appear disposed against Palin). At least you know more about what makes her tick. By the same token I notice that Obama and Biden WANT to be known as good Christian men, by their respective statements. I am glad to have the information to know they are both phonies.

603 posted on 09/10/2008 6:08:11 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

“I think your “apparently” goes WAY beyond anything you can reasonably hold Palin accountable for.”

She hasn’t condemned the foreign policy which is destroying Eastern Christianity has she?

“You are either ascribing to her things she never said, OR you are unhappy that she believes what all Bible-believing Christians believe. NOT believing that God has a plan puts you in the distinct minority of all Americans.”

You think so? I suppose it depends on what the plan is. If by that you mean that there was a script for my life and I simply follow it, well, I sincerely doubt that the majority of American Christians believe that since as we all know, the majority of American Christians are not Calvinists and I know that the majority of Christians in the world don’t believe that.

FK, it will come as no surprise to you that I don’t accept Palin’s theology of God mapping out a plan for Palin’s life anymore than I can accept that her talking in tongues will enhance the security of this country or the well being of the people. In fact, as I have said, I think its downright dangerous and not just for Americans.


604 posted on 09/10/2008 6:20:40 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins
Oh horrors! Imagine teaching the truth [Creation] in a school. I have seen the left smearing her on this already

Creationism is not science, FK. You can teach in a religion class, but not as science. Apparently Mrs. Palin doesn't know the difference.

At least you know more about what makes her tick. By the same token I notice that Obama and Biden WANT to be known as good Christian men.

Beginning with the most unpopular President ever, George W. Bush, religion became part of politics. So much was made of Romney's Mormonism, and Huckabee's pastoral past, and Obama's "Islam."

It is almost impossible now for a politcian to do anything without declaring his or her faith. This is the tip of the iceberg of theocracy. Everything will be judged according to one's religious affiliation.

We are looking at new Cromwellism and religious political correctness which is endangering American's principle sof freedom of speech and beliefs, the inalienable rights given to all that the Founding Fathers believed in.

Again, this country is too ethnically, culturally and religiously diverse to be able to afford religious parities. It's a dangerous and potentially devastating development that is incompatible with the universal foundations this country rests on.

624 posted on 09/10/2008 11:19:07 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper

Since Darwin’s theory is just that, a THEORY, then ID should at least be discussed. Learning is supposed to take place when there are different angles to a subject.


634 posted on 09/10/2008 12:58:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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