Posted on 08/30/2008 7:09:59 AM PDT by chessplayer
Taking a look at the stories in the Old Media will show that the Media is turning attack dog ASAP on McCain's choice for vice president, Sarah Palin. Notice the main meme is her supposed "inexperience." Funny how Palin was the VP pick for about 15 seconds before the Old Media went after her "inexperience" while they have yet to hit Barry Obama on HIS inexperience at all and he's been running for president since 2004. We should also note that Palin didn't get the honeymoon that Biden got when his announcement was made. But, the worst is yet to come and the Daily Kos is doing its level best to mine the lowest of lows. In a Kos diary today, it is being alleged that Sarah Palin "faked" the pregnancy of her last child, a baby born with Down's Syndrome. The claim is that it was her teenaged daughter's child, not hers. And, true to form, the Kossacks took that absurd calumny and hate even further in the comments.
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Why was the site shut down? Because the links contain the words “docex” in them? Were they declassified? I am sure the commisisons that investigated had access to them as well. I appreciate the offer. Maybe you need to convice the commissions that they are wrong and then they can make the “correction” to reflect your conlusions.
I would say it's more like an unholy alliance, each having their own ax to grind. But Kolo is right that the people who were in the executive driver's seat were Protestants, who are ultimately responsible for the policies that have been devastating to Eastern Christianity.
Click on jveritas name. He has a lot of his translations preserved on his freepersite.
I don’t recall his nationality, but it is MidEastern, iirc.
The links were opened by decision by the president, iirc. They were closed when the new overall intel guy...was it negroponte...started seeing some of what was being revealed. There was fear someone would run across an actual location or recipe, imho.
Creationism is not science, FK. You can teach in a religion class, but not as science. Apparently Mrs. Palin doesn't know the difference.
At least you know more about what makes her tick. By the same token I notice that Obama and Biden WANT to be known as good Christian men.
Beginning with the most unpopular President ever, George W. Bush, religion became part of politics. So much was made of Romney's Mormonism, and Huckabee's pastoral past, and Obama's "Islam."
It is almost impossible now for a politcian to do anything without declaring his or her faith. This is the tip of the iceberg of theocracy. Everything will be judged according to one's religious affiliation.
We are looking at new Cromwellism and religious political correctness which is endangering American's principle sof freedom of speech and beliefs, the inalienable rights given to all that the Founding Fathers believed in.
Again, this country is too ethnically, culturally and religiously diverse to be able to afford religious parities. It's a dangerous and potentially devastating development that is incompatible with the universal foundations this country rests on.
You forgot to put /s for sacrasm. The Catholi Church prays for it in every Mass. But is the /s was letf out intentionally, I think you are out of touch with reality; you left the planet.
“Again, this country is too ethnically, culturally and religiously diverse to be able to afford religious parities. It’s a dangerous and potentially devastating development that is incompatible with the universal foundations this country rests on.”
EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!
The Founding Fathers did not mention a Christian God in the Declaration. They mention "Nature's God." Christ is nowhere to be found in that Declaration.
Until liberalism gained a majority in power, leaders promoted the American belief that God is there. Politically supported actions such as the pledge and what is on the money serve as reminders
God was added to the Pledge in 1950's. "In God we trust" was not on the coins of original United States currency; it was added in 1864 (under political pressure of various Christian groups).
The addition of "under God" was made by the (Catholic) Knights of Columbus in 1951. They started lobbying Congress to make the change official. The most influential element in the inclusion was a foreigner (native of Scotland) who personally influenced Pres. Eisenhower (1954) to include the "under God." After he signed the Bill approving the change, Pres. Eisenhower (a Presbyterian) wrote
The Bill was signed into law, 54 years ago, on March 10th, 1954. There was no God mentioned in the Pledge until 50 years ago.
God on the money had an even more diverse history. The Dollar Bill didn't get it until 1957. In all cases, These actions were not "politically supported" but politically imposed.
In 1864 (88 years after the Declaration of Independence) the motto in God We Trust was added to various coins. In 1883 it was removed from the nickel, only to re-appear in 1938. It was also not on the gold (Double Eagle) dollar coint of 1907.
President Theodore Roosevelet was against it (some liberal he was!).
He likened adding God on coins to a "cheap political motto."
The motto has been in continuous use since 1909 on one-cent coins, and since 1916 on dimes.
By contrast, paper money did not have "In God We Trust" until 1957 (first appearing on a 1-dollar Silver Certificate (which was abolished as a guarantor of dollar's worth by Richard Nixon, and replaced by "trust").
I think that the banning of God that you suggest is a denial of where our country came from
I will put myself in the company of such "liberals" as Teddy Roosevelet, thank you. The country did not find it necessary to add God to the coins for 88 years since it's declaration as a sovereign nation. It was an afterthought.
By your standards the country was founded on liberal principles. I think some are trying to re-write the history.
Actions speak louder than the words.
You’re welcome. I do hope everyone here will remember to pray for all persecuted Christians everywhere. One of you EO should start a thread to keep this before the FR Christians and ping us for prayers.
This flies in the face of FK's claim that only Christianity proclaims truth, and all other religions are just mistaken beliefs.
I don't care about anonymous sources, xzins. But you apparently believe them more than any official or well-established news source. That's your choice, but don't expect everyone else to buy into that.
The links have "docex" on them. I imagine jveritas was a translator and is now using the information he had (which may or may not have been credible) to pormote his own agenda.
I am well acquainted with "docex," having served in Bosnia as Naval intel officer attached to Army's 205th MI Bgde. We had tons of sources that were of dubious origin and dubious agenda. Just because they have a docket number doesn't make them credible or true.
There are a few people who post here who are not dispensationalists, are not Zionists, and who have an understanding of how politics influence religious matters.
We're not popular, but that's not why we are here.
Fortunately prayer is a powerful weapon and it's available to all of us.
They are legitimate Iraqi documents from the archives opened by our government. I remember the news release from the government opening them up. I remember the site that carried them. I remember the news release announcing they had been closed again to the public.
I can probably find the reports about the closure of the site. Or, you can trust me. Which is it?
I don’t think I’ve lied to you yet.
Since Darwin’s theory is just that, a THEORY, then ID should at least be discussed. Learning is supposed to take place when there are different angles to a subject.
Back 25 years ago, doctors were telling mothers to abort or give their child up to the state for safe keeping. I’m sure some still do today. What a blessing parents miss when they decide not to raise their Downs children, aside from the physical problems. They’re a delight.
I never said you lied to me. Our standards of what is credible may differ. Just because a document is opened doesn't mean it was true. It may be that it was believed to be true and then it was determined that it wasn't and in order for the government not be associated with false information the source was shut down.
Your other anonymous souce listed Kurdistan Daily News as a "credible!" This is no different than what we had seen in Bosnia from various factional press, radio and television programs. As recently as several weeks ago, the Georgian sources were talking about Russian raping women and burning villages, and S. Ossetian sources were saying the same thing about Georgians.
We read and scrutinized everything, 24/7. That doesn't mean overeating turned out to be true. Even our local translators were not always reliable, which is why we had our own native speakers in the US military, with security clearances, double check their work.
We had Bosnian Muslims, translating Serb documents and vice versa. We also had Serb translators translating Serb documents, and Muslim translators translating Muslim documents.
Our guys often found unintentional omissions but also deliberate mistranslations. We even had our translators check on each other (no one was exempt), as we had ehtnic diversity and possible sympathizers among them.
We caught one warrnat officer correpsonding with a local Serb nstionalist by e-mail; he was promptly reassinged. That's why the motto "In God we trust. Everyone else we investigate" was spot on.
It is our MOST powerful weapon. I just started a Bible Study on Living a Life of Prayer. It’s different from just having a prayer life. I am eager to learn more.
What I’m saying Kosta is that our military captured documents in Iraq from the former government. Others have been found since then.
These untranslated Iraqi documents were made available online by our government.
There is no benefit from debating this guy.
Well, if it hasn't been done already, I'd feel much more comfortable responding if I had a quote to go from. I haven't seen exactly what she said. Given the scope of what we think God's plan is, "furthering God's plan" is harmless and true.
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