Posted on 08/30/2008 7:09:59 AM PDT by chessplayer
Taking a look at the stories in the Old Media will show that the Media is turning attack dog ASAP on McCain's choice for vice president, Sarah Palin. Notice the main meme is her supposed "inexperience." Funny how Palin was the VP pick for about 15 seconds before the Old Media went after her "inexperience" while they have yet to hit Barry Obama on HIS inexperience at all and he's been running for president since 2004. We should also note that Palin didn't get the honeymoon that Biden got when his announcement was made. But, the worst is yet to come and the Daily Kos is doing its level best to mine the lowest of lows. In a Kos diary today, it is being alleged that Sarah Palin "faked" the pregnancy of her last child, a baby born with Down's Syndrome. The claim is that it was her teenaged daughter's child, not hers. And, true to form, the Kossacks took that absurd calumny and hate even further in the comments.
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And Obama wasn't? Did you feel the same urge to defend him against such attacks as you feel compelled to defend a woman you admit you barely know who she is?
No one has attacked Obama for being unqualified for the Presidency because it would take too much time away from his being a good father to his two young girls. I would defend him if anyone did. I would also defend Obama if anyone brought up the race card or claimed he was a Muslim or any of that baloney. All of that is wrong, irrelevant and unnecessary to mount an effective case against Obama. Nobody argues the qualifications of McCain or Biden, but I agree with Newt that Palin is actually MORE qualified for the Presidency than Obama himself. :)
Let me just show you how the this double standard works. On August 29, Karl Rove explained on CBS's "Face the Nation" why Virginia Governor wasn't fit to be (Vice) President.
I know all about that and I saw Rove confronted with it last night. He chuckled a little bit as if he was beaten, and then said that they both made political decisions in their VEEP choices (even though Obama did not choose Kaine). I have no problem with Palin being challenged on the issue of experience. It IS an issue. However, I think it loses in a fair comparison here because she has more as number 2 than Obama has as number 1. Now, if their ticket was something like Richardson-Biden, then I wouldn't be talking so much about the experience issue, but I would still defend Palin against the sexism in the media.
How come Kaine is not "qualified" and she is? How can we so quickly change our tune? Where is objectivity?
Well, I've never said anything about Kaine, Rove did, and you don't expect him to be objective. :) Had Obama picked him my best guess at my response would have been that the pick had a weakness because Obama would have been doubling up on the inexperience issue. It's clear to me that he chose Biden in part for that reason. Palin doesn't hurt so much there because no one can argue about McCain's experience. Had their ticket been Richardson-Biden, then McCain never would have chosen Palin. (It was risky enough as it was. :) In that case he probably would have chosen Lieberman and exploded the party right there. :)
The source did not lie. The source, which was official, the AIP secretary, provided erroneous information to the NYT.
I am fine with folks making an error. However, ABC had this beaten down by 9/1, and I distinctly remember seeing it still being in the news as an allegation two and three days later. MESSNBC for example. THEY are the liars. I give the AIP person credit for coming forward and admitting the mistake, even though she's a nut. :)
How would you look at her attendance, regardless of the reason, if this was a Communist Party convention?
I would have looked at it as a deal breaker, and of course McCain never would have chosen her if this was the fact. That's totally different. Even the Secretary you mentioned earlier said that not all members are secessionists. What makes you say that "Everything points to the fact that she has good relations with this secessionist organization"? There is no everything. Let's be fair here. As I said before it has been PROVED that she has never left the Republican Party. I'd say there is more actual evidence that McCain almost bolted to run as Kerry's VP than there is that Palin has anything to do with the AIP. Did you watch that welcoming "address"? It was nothing, politicians do those all the time.
I remind you that the AIP president says "I am not American. I am Alaskan." And the AIP motto is "Alaska First" (compare to McCain's "Country First").
SO WHAT??? Palin has never been part of this group. Only people trying to smear her have attempted a link. She gave a 90-second-welcome-to-my-home-town-and-please-spend-lots-of-money-in-our-community-while-you're-here announcement and suddenly she wants Alaska to secede from the Union??? What is this? :)
Going by registration records is pointless since Joe Lieberman demonstrated that one can be a registered Democrat and actively work and associate with a Republican Party and its platform.
This is an alternate universe if you are trying to show something. Should I assume you are a Communist because there ARE NO RECORDS showing that you have ever belonged to the Communist Party? :)
BTW, Lieberman DOES NOT associate with the Republican platform. He is correct on the war, but otherwise far left through and through. Had McCain picked him, the Republican party would have exploded in revolt. The riots would have been INSIDE the building.
Apparently Palin has had close and warm relationship with the traitors gathered around AIP when she couldn't even fathom that she would be thrust into partnership with a man she publicly disagreed with on more than one occasion.
Show me "close and warm relationship with the traitors" relating to what they stand for. I've never seen this, and I assume that if there was anything there the drive-by media would have already been all over it. Let's face it, we're talking about some nuts here. If they had ever taken up arms, hurt anyone, or done any damage, and THEN after that Palin was friendly with them, THEN you're talking real news. You know, like William Ayers (which the MSM won't cover). And BTW, if Palin has publicly disagreed with McCain on more than one occasion then I like her even more. :)
Was she vetted on facts or on her apparent usefulness?
I assume both. That's what I would do.
When Pat Buchanan visited her village she wore his button "out of courtesy" as a mayor! Give me a break. Stupid Buchanan still thinks he and she are one! Apparently she has everything to everybody.
Are you kidding me? Palin is being billed as a total "Maverick" in her own right. Who besides McCain best deserves that label as far as current or former Republicans go? Of course it's Buchanan. I would EXPECT her to have sympathy for him. That's being consistent!
And I assert that it is unfair to judge her capable because she has a family!
NO ONE HAS SAID THAT! She's a sitting governor and a former mayor. She has a proven track record of routing out government corruption, heads a budget of over $11 billion dollars and is the commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard. Even in this summary, Obama can't touch any of this type of responsibility and accomplishment. As Hillary correctly noted about his qualifications, he made a speech in 2002.
She did well [in her speech], for the crowd she represents.
Yes, I completely agree given that she seeks to represent all Americans. I hope the following weeks have her proving herself worthy of being chosen and being qualified to serve with distinction as VP.
“The context of my remark was that no one ever said anything against Pelosi as being unfit to be number 2 in line to the Presidency BECAUSE she was a mother of five.”
No one ever said that because there are so many more even better reasons why she is unfit to be much more than the model for a Halloween fright mask to scare little kids with! :)
“Like Jefferson said, I tremble for my country when I realize that God is just.
LOL! That’s a pretty good saying. :)”
I thought you’d like that. It bears remembering and voting time.
Yep, I fully agree. With all that pressure she actually looked like she was having fun. That's the kind of cool customer I want to be in charge of things. And since she outshined McCain last night, there's going to be even more pressure on her. We'll see how she handles it. I think she's doing great and I pray that God has a plan already laid out for the benefit of her children should they win. I have to think He already does.
Yes, that's a great example. Thanks.
I didn’t watch McCain’s speech as I was researching family history on my computer. I like her a lot and pray every day for the election; both presidential and Congressional. We’re lost without a decent Congress. But, God IS in contr
Your answers to Kosta are very good. Thanks.
Maybe if had five kids, one of whom was a pregnant 17-y/o and a 4-month old special needs infant someone would have rightfully questioned his priorities.
What sexism? Her judgment and her priorities were questioned based on what became known about her children, and they questioned her patriotism in light of her husband's treasonous membership with the Alaskan Independence Party, and any lack of apology to the nation for such association.
If anyone is using sexism it's the GOP by promoting her as some GOP Xena Doll who has actually come to dominate the whole show since Wednesday.
Just a reminder: a few months ago, McCain was a dirty word among conservative Republicans. Your own darling Ann Coulter said "McCain nomination would make me a 'Hillary girl"'.
Last night was almost a coronation. How quickly people change their minds! People don't even realize how manipulated they are.
Rush Limbaugh was even more blunt. Commenting on the possibility that Huckabee or McCain getitng the GOP nomination, Rush said ;"it's going to destroy the Republican Party, it's going to change it forever, be the end of it. A lot of people aren't going to vote."
And now, a few months later, McCain is a hero of the GOP? Talk about shallow! Some backbone, let alone character...
What experience? Being tortured and kept in a small isolation cell? I know he suffered and my heart goes out to him for that as a fellow Naval officer and shipmate, but that doesn't make him an expert on anything other than the subject of being a POW.
What about his Amnesty Bill he cosponsored with none other than Edward Kennedy? I guess no one remembered last night to list that among his "accomplishments."McCain's voting record is checkered with party disloyalty and crossing party lines and voting with most liberal of Democrats.
He made being a wild card an entire career.
So, Alaskan secessionist traitors are better than Communists? May I quote you on that?
Palin has never been part of this group. Only people trying to smear her have attempted a link.
So, what? Her husband was a card-carrying secessionist, while she was a mayor, until 2002. What if it turned out that he was a member of the Communist Party USA? Would that tarnish her as well?
And what would the GOP do if they were to find out that Obama's wife had been a member of the Black Panthers as recently as 2002? They would go ape over it! They went ape over her statement that she was proud of her country for the first time in her life, as if there is some obligation to be proud of anything! But it's okay for Palin's hubby to be a member of a secessionist group of America-haters.
She gave a 90-second-welcome-to-my-home-town-and-please-spend-lots-of-money-in-our-community-while-you're-here announcement and suddenly she wants Alaska to secede from the Union???
Why are America-haters "welcome" and Obama's wife's "first-time-proud-of-the-country" is not?
I think they are both wrong and shold not be welcomed for their stance.
Fine, then vote for Obama, you sickening troll. I’m sick and tired of you bellyaching clowns bitching about McCain. He’s the Republican nominee, so either vote for him or against him.
Well, one can make a mountain out of an anthill. She was a mayor of a town that had less than 6,000 people. She is a governor of a state that barely has the population of an average American city (680,000 people in all!).
Her budget is mostly from imposing a tax on the oil companies, something the Republican Party called "socialist" when it was suggested by Obama's camp.
She is also a religious nut, a fundamentalist Evangelical, a Chrisitan with a Mohammedan mindset, liking the Iraq war to "God." I guess she didn't follow the course of events and lies that got us into that war. It had nothing to do with God, but with a carefully orchestrated man-made scenario.
This is an alternate universe if you are trying to show something. Should I assume you are a Communist because there ARE NO RECORDS showing that you have ever belonged to the Communist Party?
If I went to a Communist Party congress and spoke on behalf of their nominee, I think you could call me a communist pig even if I never officially changed my Republican Party affiliation.
Yes, I completely agree given that she seeks to represent all Americans.
She doesn't represent all Americans. Someone forgot to tell her that. There are people who don't hunt for food in this country. Most of us have supermarkets.
Aaaah, poor baby...
Does that include Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter (see #407)?
No matter how disgusting Kos is this week, they (he) can never possbly get close to as outrageous as a few years ago when they celebrated the photos of the chared partial remains of US citizens serving as contractors dangling from the bridge and strewn on the street in Falluja. For that act alone, I don’t think I would be able to restrain myself if I say that Kos guy in person.
Rush and Ann are now supporting McCain. You’re still a crying baby.
Yeah, you’re a baby, all right. An Obama baby.
Yeah, they change their minds like we change batteries in our flashlights. The opinion is the truth of the day...tomorrow who knows. Very grown up indeed.
I have been a registered Republican all my life, just like Sarah Palin...baby.
Amen. Excellent answer, Dr. E.
Hurrah!!!!
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