So, Alaskan secessionist traitors are better than Communists? May I quote you on that?
Palin has never been part of this group. Only people trying to smear her have attempted a link.
So, what? Her husband was a card-carrying secessionist, while she was a mayor, until 2002. What if it turned out that he was a member of the Communist Party USA? Would that tarnish her as well?
And what would the GOP do if they were to find out that Obama's wife had been a member of the Black Panthers as recently as 2002? They would go ape over it! They went ape over her statement that she was proud of her country for the first time in her life, as if there is some obligation to be proud of anything! But it's okay for Palin's hubby to be a member of a secessionist group of America-haters.
She gave a 90-second-welcome-to-my-home-town-and-please-spend-lots-of-money-in-our-community-while-you're-here announcement and suddenly she wants Alaska to secede from the Union???
Why are America-haters "welcome" and Obama's wife's "first-time-proud-of-the-country" is not?
I think they are both wrong and shold not be welcomed for their stance.
Can you back up that Gov. and Mr. Palin are "Alaskan secessionist traitors"? For a rock-solid source on this I'd suggest either the Daily Kos, DU, or US Weekly. :)
FK: Palin has never been part of this group. Only people trying to smear her have attempted a link.
So, what? Her husband was a card-carrying secessionist, while she was a mayor, until 2002. What if it turned out that he was a member of the Communist Party USA? Would that tarnish her as well?
And I say "So What?" right back. Even the spokesperson for that group says that not every member is a card-carrying secessionist. I haven't seen any info saying that Mr. Palin believed in secession. In addition, to call these people traitors is ridiculous. SOME of them want a vote they already know will change nothing. If they took up arms or even condoned any sort of violence that would make them traitors. I see no evidence of either.
And what would the GOP do if they were to find out that Obama's wife had been a member of the Black Panthers as recently as 2002? They would go ape over it!
Sure they would. The Panthers used and promoted violence against citizens. There is no comparison to the AIP. And make no mistake, I don't stand for or support the AIP. I see them as harmless, and actually right about several things. (I guess that means I hate America too. :) I just think it's unfair to attack Palin by making comparisons to groups that actually ARE dangerous. The AIP does not belong in the same sentence as the Communist Party or the Panthers. It's a false comparison.
If you will go to these lengths to GET Palin then it appears that you REALLY REALLY want to dislike her. If true, that is fine. Don't vote for her then.
Why are America-haters "welcome" and Obama's wife's "first-time-proud-of-the-country" is not? I think they are both wrong and should not be welcomed for their stance.
If you think you know enough to call the AIP "America-haters" then by all means connect Palin to them, say she founded the group if you want, and vote accordingly. I just don't think that "Palin-haters" have done their homework. From The New York Sun
The director of the Alaska Division of Elections, Gail Fenumiai, said Mr. Palin twice registered under the Alaskan Independence Party — in 1995 and 2000. Some members of the party have advocated secession from America, though that is not a goal listed in the party's platform. (emphasis added)
And from the Party's own website (with my emphasis): Alaskan Independence Party
Platform - We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:
1. To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.
2. To support and defend States' Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.
3. To advocate the convening of a State Constitutional Convention at the constitutionally designated 10 year interval.
4. To reinforce the unalienable rights endowed by our Creator to Alaska law, by eliminating the use of the word "privilege" in the Alaska statutes.
5. To amend the Constitution of the State of Alaska so as to re-establish the rights of all Alaskan residents to entry upon all public lands within the state, and to acquire private property interest there in, under fair and reasonable conditions. Such property interest shall include surface and sub-surface patent.
6. To foster a constitutional amendment abolishing and prohibiting all property taxes.
7. To seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.
8. To prohibit all bureaucratic regulations and judicial rulings purporting to have the effect of law, except that which shall be approved by the elected legislature.
9. To preserve and protect the Alaska Permanent Fund, Permanent fund earnings, earnings reserve fund and individual Permanent Fund Dividends.
10. To provide for the direct popular election of the attorney general, all judges, and magistrates.
11. To provide for the development of unrestricted, statewide, surface transportation and utility corridors as needed by the public or any individual.
12. To affirm and assert every possible right-of-way established under R.S. 2477 of July 26, 1866, before its repeal by the Federal Land Management Policy Act of October 21, 1976.
13. To support the right of the individual to keep and bear arms.
14. To support the complete abolition of the concept of sovereign or governmental immunity, so as to restore accountability for public servants.
15. To support the rights of parents to privately or home school their children.
16. To support the privatization of government services.
17. To oppose the borrowing of money by government for any purposes other than for capital improvements.
18. To strengthen the traditional family and support individual accountability without government interference or regulation.
19. To support the right of jurors to judge the law as well as the facts, according to their conscience.
20. To support "Jobs for Alaskans...First!"
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Now, if you want to compare this to "America-hating" or Communism or violent groups such as the Black Panthers, then have at it. I just think it's intellectually dishonest.