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RUSSIA: Dimitri Medvedev raises spectre of new Cold War
The Times (UK) ^ | August 26, 2008 | James Hider in Akhalgori, Georgia

Posted on 08/27/2008 12:05:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Russia put the West on alert for a new Cold War that the Kremlin is ready to fight, its President said yesterday.

President Medvedev set tensions soaring when he recognised the independence of two breakaway republics inside Georgia. “We are not afraid of anything, including the prospect of a Cold War,” he said. Hours earlier he had ordered his Foreign Ministry to start establishing diplomatic ties with the secessionist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

The move brought instant condemnation from the United States, Britain, France, Germany and other Western countries. President Bush appealed to the Kremlin to “reconsider this irresponsible decision”. David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, said that it was “unjustifiable and unacceptable”.

Mr Medvedev, whose troops still occupy positions in Georgia, including in the vital Black Sea port of Poti, said that he did not want a return to the Cold War, but that “everything depends on the position of our partners”.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cccp; coldwar2; coldwarii; communism; geopolitics; georgia; leninism; putin; redarmy; russia; soviets; sovietunion; ussr
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1 posted on 08/27/2008 12:05:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: gusopol3; NormsRevenge; thackney; BOBTHENAILER; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; ...

H/T to the Drudge Report....


2 posted on 08/27/2008 12:06:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Responding to the headline alone, it’s nice to see Medvedev finally catching-up to what Putin is doing.


3 posted on 08/27/2008 12:07:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: All
Related thread from Monday:

US reviewing 'entire relationship' with Russia: White House

4 posted on 08/27/2008 12:09:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: 1rudeboy; Jeff Head; homeguard; eastforker; spacejunkie

more news from Russia...via London and Georgia.


5 posted on 08/27/2008 12:12:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Would we notice? There are many people who aren't paying attention to Russia's activity. There are some, Lani Davis, already excusing their actions in Georgia and giving Gorbi credit for ending the last cold war, not Reagan.

There are some even here that can't even grasp the McFaul mission is the first military test of the new cold war. They don't see Poland, the Ukraine, and the former satellites as endangered.

Come November we might actually have a president who would surrender in the new cold war. At least that is what his naivete on the campaign trail would indicate (His promise to disarm nukes)

6 posted on 08/27/2008 12:13:02 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: IrishCatholic

Other than titanium, I can’t think of anything we really need from the Rooskies. And if we did need some, the CIA can set up another dummy trading company and get it anyway.


7 posted on 08/27/2008 12:25:05 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Did somebody say, "SPECTRE" ?


8 posted on 08/27/2008 12:28:39 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So, what is their end game? I can only fathom that they percieve the American people as being so anti-confrontational that they will elect obama rather than mccain to avoid any political or military confrontation, and, they might be right.


9 posted on 08/27/2008 12:31:11 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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The Russians have been watching American TV. If your not from here you would think, by watching MSNBC and other MSM news shows, Americans have become so anti-war we are going to elect Obama for President. I guess they are too stupid to understand we would never elect Obama with them threatening another cold war.
10 posted on 08/27/2008 12:40:15 PM PDT by kempo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Mr Medvedev, whose troops still occupy positions in Georgia, including in the vital Black Sea port of Poti, said that he did not want a return to the Cold War, but that “everything depends on the position of our partners”.

I think he said this morning he is ready to go to War,(no mention of cold) if poland installs the missile defense we want them to.

11 posted on 08/27/2008 12:47:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (We will have world government. The only question is whether by conquest or consent.)
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To: eastforker
I agree eastforker. In addition the most interested third party is the Chicoms. Don't be surprised if there is a staged event masquerading as happenstance involving Taiwan in the very near future. The Chicoms are a brilliant, methodical and ultimate sacrifice people whose fanaticism is second only to the radical Islamists. And that ranking is predicated on the fact that the Chicoms would just as soon kill you over 5 years as opposed to a quick Islamic beheading.
12 posted on 08/27/2008 12:47:43 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: kempo

I pray that you are right!

I fear that you are NOT!


13 posted on 08/27/2008 12:47:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Related FR Thread:

Russian threat to Nato supply route in Afghanistan

**********************EXCERPT INTRO*****************************

Russia played a trump card in its strategic poker game with the West yesterday by threatening to suspend an agreement allowing Nato (sic) to take supplies and equipment to Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia.

The agreement was struck at a Nato (sic) summit in April to provide an alternative supply route to the road between the Afghan capital and the Pakistani border, which has come under attack from militants on both sides of the frontier this year.
...
Mr Kabulov also suggested that the stand-off over Georgia could lead Russia to review agreements allowing Nato (sic) members to use Russian airspace and to maintain bases in the former Soviet Central Asian states of Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

14 posted on 08/27/2008 12:55:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Cyman

I can think of no other reason to stage this now, just before the election.I also think this is a huge test of our fortitude and international standing. I guess it is good that I am not commander in chief. If it was me, I would sink every ship in the black sea fleet, send missles to every tank position in Georgia and then bomb the tunnel going through the mountains so they would be trapped like a rat as our guys took care of business, but thats just me.


15 posted on 08/27/2008 12:55:06 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let’s see - population less than half the U.S, and shrinking by 800M a year, GNP one tenth of the U.S., oil based economy while oil production is declining, military dependent on conscription and is little motivated (apart from chasing boy scouts in Georgia), infrastructure that is falling apart (well, yes, we have that problem too). These boys are so 19th century it boggles the mind- too bad they got nukes.


16 posted on 08/27/2008 12:58:55 PM PDT by Humvee (Beliefs are more powerful than facts - Paulus Atreides)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If that is true Ernest, I fear that an Afghan invasion by Russia might also be in the works. If we don’t move in Georgia, they must think we would abandon Afghanistan as well. I hate to be so pessimistic but we may very well be in for a fight, or, depending who’s elected, turn tale and run.


17 posted on 08/27/2008 12:59:34 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 PING!!!

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18 posted on 08/27/2008 1:00:16 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I often think that we should have listened to Gen. Patton.

19 posted on 08/27/2008 1:00:36 PM PDT by VR-21
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War in Georgia was not a COLD WAR...FR Thread:

Pics From Georgian front [graphic]

20 posted on 08/27/2008 1:09:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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