Posted on 08/27/2008 7:52:58 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
10. Inexperience. Romney, a one-term governor who did not run for reelection, has precisely one-third of the elective experience that Dan Quayle had when nominated for Vice President, and Quayle was attacked for his inexperience. A Romney nomination would cut against the grain of one of McCains best arguments Obamas inexperience and this is particularly true when placed against Joe Biden.
9. Rommey supporters typically say that he would be good on the economy. But why, exactly? Paul ONeill and John Snow were both highly successful businessmen, and yet were weak as Treasury Secretary. Why would Romney be any different and would McCain want to be seen to hand over control of the economy to his vice president? Business and government require different leadership styles. Few people can handle both well, and Romneys thin record as governor provides little evidence he can. The conservative Tax Foundation stated that the total state and local tax burden in Massachusetts rose 5.1 percent on Romneys watch, and the state ranked 46th in job growth from 2003-2005 (in the middle of a boom). In any event, skill in business is very different from skill in finance or governing.
8. Thin skin. In the Republican debates, Romney always wanted to be the focus of attention, taking more than his allotted share of time and reacting badly when others questioned his statements or views. McCain clobbered him in the debates, helping assure his own nomination. Joe Biden would do likewise.
7. While anybody but _______ efforts rarely work in American politics (think Carter, Reagan, Mondale), this one did. At least three candidates Huckabee, Giuliani, Thompson decided that they simply preferred beating Romney and effectively worked together to stop him. What was it about Romney they so disliked? This also doesnt say much about his ability to unite the party, keep support, or exert political leadership.
6. Whether one is pro-choice or pro-life, Romneys flip-flop on abortion seems terribly insincere. To believe the story as it was originally told, Romney was concerned over stem cell research. Ask any of your active pro-life friends: they will probably know many people who are pro-life except for the stem cells issue and will have met no one who became pro-life because of it. His palpable anger when asked detailed questions about his views does not give credence to the sincerity of his conversion.
5. Can Romney supporters point to even one poll just one poll showing that he would have won reelection in 2006? It is not good enough to say oh, but he said he wanted to run for President, so there were no polls. (What about Romney internals?) George Bush faced this dilemma in 1998 and won reelection handily as Governor of Texas. What does this say about Romneys record as Governor? Isnt the better conclusion that he won (with less than 50% of the vote) only against a very weak Democratic candidate from western Massachusetts and governed in an undistinguished fashion? If we want to say that Barack Obamas record is thin, we must say the same about Romneys, so he cannot be the nominee.
4. In 2004, some very effective advertising mocked John Kerry for windsurfing off Nantucket as a sign he was out of touch with the people. How, then, would the people react, in a time of economic gloom, to learning that Romneys hedge funds based offshore, presumably to avoid U.S. taxation are named after a lighthouse on the same island? Cant you just picture the ads now?
3. With McCains implicit one-term pledge, a Romney nomination giving the vice presidency to a deep-pocketed candidate would sharply divide the Republican party by effectively conceding the 2012 nomination to him, sidelining both up-and-coming candidates like Governors Pawlenty, Palin, and Jindal and current figures such as Mike Huckabee (who came in second, remember Romney did not). How will the party react? The same consideration does not apply for a pick of, for instance, Pawlenty, Jindal, Governor Jon Huntsman, or Rep. Eric Cantor. They do not have the money to dominate the party and the conservative movement as Romney does. The 1988 primaries show that a sitting Vice President can be effectively challenged but Romney would begin the race with a huge advantage simply because of his personal wealth. Allegations have already been raised that Romneys foundation money has been used (improperly?) to bolster his political image And given this, would President McCain have any assurance that Romney would be loyal?
2. Can Romney supporters name a single major accomplishment of Romenys as Governor that would please conservatives? His RomneyCare health plan? Unlikely, as the candidate himself walked away from it during the primaries. Did he have any ability to persuade the legislature? After the Massachusetts Supreme Courts decision on gay marriage, did Romney even switch a single legislator to vote in favor of placing a constitutional amendment on gay marriage on the ballot, so the people could deicide rather than judges? If so, who? The burden should be on Romney supporters to provide the names and details. Did the Legislature not like him, or is it better to say that he simply walked away from the issue? The Boston Globes valedictory editorial (December 26, 2006) sums it up well: "Romney himself admits that a number of his goals remain unmet. His inability to lower the nation's highest unemployment insurance rate, to secure merit pay for teachers, and to reinvigorate the Republican Party were among the frustrations he listed."
1. On a family vacation, he put the family dog in a cage on top of the car while driving for 12 hours, across an international border an experiment in logistics, aerodynamics, and animal welfare that predictably failed when the dog became ill. Over 50 million American dogs and 40 million American dog owners would be horrified. For my own part, I think Obama's selection of Joe Biden (one of the least wealthy men in the US Senate) makes a Romney pick a very, very dangerous exercise in bad optics
He was a gutless governor who rolled over for an out of control state supreme court that mandated gay marriage.
If he had had the guts for a constitutional crisis and confrontation, we would not have gay marriage in MA (and probably not CA either).
He could have been courageious, instead he’s a manicured neuticle.
(And nobody can overlook the fact that gay marriage could easily lead to legalizing polygamy, something many surmise the Mormon Church would quickly be on board with).
Nope.
Oh, and one more time, with feeling . . . There Is No Such Thing As A Conservative.
There are only people more conservative than others.
Romney is more conservative than either Obama or Biden in total and that makes him more preferred than either. Case closed.
Because he’s such a smarmy SOB and his supporters are so arrogant that pretty much everyone enjoys watching him repeatedly fail.
I was just explaining your two additional points to my parents last night. I’ve been saying since the primaries that the GOP could just use soundbites from the Dem primaries without filtering in their ads and be very effective. Good to know McCain had my room bugged. :) However, I’ve also been saying that our nominee should NOT pick someone from our primary contestants for the exact same reason. McCain will be tying his own noose if he picks Romney after his own recent sets of attack ads.
And sold their souls in doing so.
Coming from a conservative, this reasoning is hard to understand. Romney has been very successful outside of government, which is just the kind of people we want in government.
Also, his government experience was in the executive branch, again the type of experience that shows he knows how to run things. Obama and Biden come up short in both of these areas.
That being said, I think Romney would be a good president but is one of those guy who could never be elected to the position because of the negative reaction he stirs up in a lot of people. He should not be on the ticket.
“This insane Mormon hatred on FR and apparently NR borders on derangement syndrome.”
I’ve seen all sorts of hatred on FR, but NR? David Frum?
For the record, Frum is Jewish. Jews, by doctrine, could care less how other people worship, as long as they are monotheistic, which (I presume without knowledge) Mormonism is.
Romney’s faith is irrelevant to me. I have followed your posts touting Cantor for VP citing his ability to attract Jewish voters. Is Cantor’s chosen faith important to you?
1. His position on illegal immigrants. 2. His stance fighting radical islam.
Checkmate!
The National Review endorsed Romney.
On a crude political level, Cantor’s faith will be useful in swing states, as Jewish people are concetrated in them, and there is unheard-of hostility toward Obama among Jewish voters.
The blind support of so many mormons for the Romney, evangelicals for the Huckster, blacks for Obama, and middle-age women for Hillary showed me that identity politics, which disgust me, are alive and well as a political reality.
It is otherwise irrelevant.
“Frum was one of Giuliani’s biggest supporters for the GOP nomination. I don’t believe a word he says.”
Frum is also strongly pro abortion.
FRED THOMPSON:
Kill the terrorists
Secure the borders
Punch the hippies
Now there is a veep that could attract my vote....
“2. Obama will use Romney’s attacks on McCain to the same effect as McCain is using Biden’s and Hillary’s attacks on Obama.”
I certainly didn’t see all the ads Romney ran, but much of his criticism of McCain was very issue specific, criticism on things such as amnesty where McCain agreed with and worked with Obama and other Dem. candidates. Just what sort of Romney criticism of McCain do you think could be used against a McCain/Romney ticket as some of Biden’s remarks about Obama are being used?
This article, and others like it about all the primary candidates, point up how good it would be to have a solid conservative who isn't a well known guy or gal knocked about in the media.
I think I have settled on the opinion that Eric Cantor would be the best choice. I like his four tems in office. I like his leadership and his solid conservatism. He will be a new fresh face on the national interviews and debates and all the voting population are tired of the long campaign's exposure of the same twelve faces.
Vice President does not make policy. The VP has two reasons for being........Vote to break a tie in the senate and watch the health of his President.
LBJ may have won it for Kennedy, and I'd speculate that Ford-Reagan would have defeated Carter. It can be important in a close race, particularly in making the candidates points effectively. Probably 4 or 5 people that could do the job, including Romney. I think the fit with McCain is the most important part. The Mormon thing is odd, but I doubt it would be a factor in the general election.
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