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Many Clinton Supporters Say Speech Didn't Heal Divisions
Washington Post ^ | August 27, 2008 | Eli Saslow

Posted on 08/27/2008 4:45:40 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Reagan79

And Obama REALLY screwed up by not picking Hillary. DUMB. I know it sucks if you are Obama to realize that you need Hillary to win. It’s a fly in your soup, to be sure. But suck it up and deal! The smart, winning move was to pick Hillary. I shuddered thinking about it. It would have fixed all the DEM internal problems. But then again, maybe she’s out for the kill, and didn’t want to do it. Who knows? I’m just glad she’s not on the ticket with him. We’d have lost.


21 posted on 08/27/2008 6:23:01 AM PDT by Huck (Warning: This post may contain spelling and/or grammatical errors.)
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To: dfwgator

Please allow me to add an assessment of Obama that we should watch closely and be ready to counter: Obama will lose to McCain this year. McCain will only be in office one term. Hillary Clinton MAY have another election bid in her, depends on her health. Guess who WILL be back in 2012? Barack Obama will, and he’ll be claiming that NOW he has “the experience”.


22 posted on 08/27/2008 6:24:42 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: cake_crumb

That add was playing on Fox this morning about every time they talked about Hillary. It completely undermines any support her speach gives BHO...


23 posted on 08/27/2008 6:25:42 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: Zakeet

If she were a Republican, the pundits would have slaughtered her. “Nasal, monotonic, soporific, bloodless, devoid of emotion, the minimum she had to do,” are just some of the milder descriptors that would have been hurled at her. I thought she looked as good as she possibly could.


24 posted on 08/27/2008 6:25:44 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: cake_crumb

Obama’s only chance will be if he becomes Governor of Illinois.

The Senate is not the path to the WH. (Of course unless both candidates are Senators)

That won’t happen again.


25 posted on 08/27/2008 6:27:33 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: aruanan
Would party leaders pull the plug on his candidacy?

They have no power to do so. Once the delegates vote, they are locked in.

26 posted on 08/27/2008 6:38:47 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: El Laton Caliente

Good, isn’t it? I hope they run it in every state as long as possible.


27 posted on 08/27/2008 6:56:17 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: dfwgator

I really can’t see Obama being elected governor of Il, unless he runs unopposed.


28 posted on 08/27/2008 6:59:04 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Huck
"But Obama has to really get it together, because I wondered when Hillary finished if they weren’t thinking they picked the wrong candidate."

Oh yeah, they were. I watched it and was so glad she is out of the running this election as president (as it stands) and as the VP candidate as well. Thank goodness for BO's and his campaign's arrogance...

29 posted on 08/27/2008 7:17:32 AM PDT by eureka! (McCain....I guess.)
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To: SampleMan
They have no power to do so. Once the delegates vote, they are locked in.

I don't think so. What the delegates want isn't set in stone. This is why the party came up with the idea of the super-delegates. The party's candidate ultimately is the prerogative of the party. Especially in the Democrat Party, it isn't matter of of one delegate, one vote, the outcome depending on the votes.
30 posted on 08/27/2008 7:27:50 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: IamConservative
"What I found interesting is she said nothing about *why* her supporters should vote for Obama, just that they should because he is a Democrat."

That's interesting because I find the exact same thing to be true of the McCain supporters here. No solid reasons to vote for McCain, just that he is the nominee and he is not Obama.

31 posted on 08/27/2008 7:29:11 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pharmboy
"If she were a Republican, the pundits would have slaughtered her. “Nasal, monotonic, soporific, bloodless, devoid of emotion, the minimum she had to do,” are just some of the milder descriptors that would have been hurled at her. I thought she looked as good as she possibly could."

Did you notice the big change in her voice and enthusiasm when she got over the first part of the speech which was about Obama, and got into her standard stump message which was about HER? It was as though a switch had been thrown. She went from lifeless to animated.

32 posted on 08/27/2008 7:32:14 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: cake_crumb

No no no, my friends.This ad by Mr McCain is just a lie. The President Mrs Clinton would never say such a thing about The Dear Leader Hussein Obama.

33 posted on 08/27/2008 7:33:06 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Zakeet

I think it’s considerably more complex than let Obama lose this cycle so Hillary can come back in 2012. The Obama ‘thing’ was an attempt by many dems to purge the CLinton’s from the dem party...for good. Sadly their choice/tactics was profoundly bad. There’s still a lot of ground to cover between now and the next pres cycle. Will the dems ‘come home’ to the Clintons after 4yr of McCain or is this truely the end of the road for them? My feeling is its the end of the road. Bill is out of control and only getting worse + Hillary going into the primary could only garner 30% of her party. I don’t see her numbers going up.


34 posted on 08/27/2008 7:41:20 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

No...I did not watch that much (Mets-Phillies game). I just saw the early part, but I will take your word that she got better when she was the subject!


35 posted on 08/27/2008 7:43:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: aruanan
Super delegates are still delegates. After they vote you have a candidate. Theoretically you could reconvene a convention, but who is the party boss after this convention? Obama.
36 posted on 08/27/2008 8:23:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: 556x45

I think the Clintons will be up and here’s why.

Obama is going to get trounced in November. And the bottom line is after Gore, Kerry and Obama. The Clintons are the only ones who actually have won something. The Rats are tired of losing, and they will turn back to the Clintons because they’ve actually won. The Rats may increase their hold on Congress, but that is largely by default, even then it will be tenuous, because of Congress’ low approval ratings, which I wouldn’t expect to go up.


37 posted on 08/27/2008 8:27:30 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, that would be the case if the Clintons were the only game in town. I think the dems (at least some of them) will work OT to make sure thats not the case. There could be plenty of competition ala Congress or governors. This is probably the best of all worlds b/c that means the dem party is still split and feuding. Then theres the question of Hillary’s 30% issue. I just dont see that going away as long as theres strong opposition to the Clintons. To be sure it looks like this fight is for the ‘soul’ of the dem party.


38 posted on 08/27/2008 10:20:14 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: 556x45

I can only hope they’re done for good. God, I hate those swine!!


39 posted on 08/28/2008 4:57:47 AM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Obama deserves a medal for saving the country &stopping the Clintons (but not my vote).)
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