When Does Human Life Begin? Obama's Pro-Abortion Answer Hill Downfall

That life begins at conception, is a “core issue of faith?”

Interesting that the libs do not so categorize the belief that the ancestor, a billion years ago, was a protozoan, or the ancestor a few million years ago was a type of monkey; that’s not called a core issue of faith. But the entity that is conceived by humans, let’s not be hasty and call that a human life! That’s just your faith talking.

My list keeps growing and growing. Obama is on the WRONG side of this issue! He and Biden will lose the election.

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But the entity that is conceived by humans, let’s not be hasty and call that a human life! That’s just your faith talking.

Especially considering that in the absence of an abortion or medical problem, a fetus will ALWAYS become a living, breathing human being.

However, the left doesn't accept "normal" processes -- when you or I look into a toilet, we see something that needs to be flushed, a leftist sees potential artwork.

“What political issue could possibly outweigh this human devastation” of 40 million deaths through abortion? “The answer, of course, is that there is none. … It is time to put away the arguments of political spin masters that only serve to justify abortion killing. We have heard a great deal this year about the need for change. But at the same time we are told that one thing cannot change – namely, the abortion regime of Roe vs. Wade.

“It is time that we demand real change, and real change means the end of Roe vs. Wade.”

Carl Anderson, Knights of Columbus - Annual Report

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The Catholic Church that I'm familiar with in the Chicago area have a strict policy of separation of church and state. State trumps church everytime.
By refusing to excommunicate those liberal politicans who claim to be Catholic while endorsing abortion issues, the Church has become an enormous corporation interested only in the bottom line. The local priests here quietly endorse the Democratic Party and advice the elderly to vote that way. The number of families who attend church has dwindled. Looking at the hypocricy in the church, who could blame them. From the gay priest scandals to the phoney outrage about abortion, they have shown their hand and it's dirty.

That life begins at conception, is a “core issue of faith?”

Of all the lies he's told, this is the slickest.

Natural facts are not issues of "faith." To short-circuit reality and say, "it is not necessary to establish and accept facts," implying that one's "faith" makes doing so unnecessary, is the ultimate, de-constructionist coup. It's voluntary insanity.

It was no different than Bill Clinton saying, "I'll define "is" the way I want to, you define it the way you want to." It is wanton rebellion against the laws of logic.

It's not good for people to elect a leader who practices something like that.

"I believe in Roe v. Wade."

What an idiot, Roe V. Wade is bad law according to most scholarly observers and should be overturned. But more importantly his reliance on a court case instead of his moral compass (which appears to be broken beyond repair) proves that he is not a man of substance or conviction. The clown is a muslim in sheep's clothing and should not be given the responsibility of dog catcher because that would be above his "pay grade". Stinking Pile of ****! Mirror, mirror on the wall, I am the great one exploiting their white guilt, from one and all!

I’m going to venture off the reservation here. Does it really matter one whit the way one votes when it comes to ending infanticide?

Contrary to the views of (I suspect) most assembled here, I don’t think it does. If Sen. Obama is elected, the status quo won’t change much. Infanticide will remain legal. However if Sen. McCain is elected, the staus quo won’t change much either. Infanticide will likely remain legal. And I base that on what we’ve seen under several years of GOP control of all three branches of government. The GOP had every opportunity to make serious inroads toward ending the savage practice. Yet it didn’t. So why should any pro-creation conservative get excited about the prospect of a McCain presidency?

Of course I take it as a given that those who are pro-creation will not vote for Sen. Obama. I know I won’t, but it’s not because I think it’s going to change the legal situation with regard to unborn children.

I think this really gets to a bigger issue that we who are pro-creation tend to avoid talking about: whether approaching abortion from the perspective of partisan politics makes any sense.

As explained to me by a Catholic convert, their interpretation of when life begins is that life is a continuum. It takes a live sperm and a live egg to create a live human being. Hence, life is already present at conception. From there on we can say an unique human person exists. Human life is ongoing and has no beginning, only an end. Abortion kills, destroys, a live human being. Abortion advocates may contend that abortion is justified for any number of reasons, but denying that a human life is being taken is just not biologically sustainable.

And I base that on what we’ve seen under several years of GOP control of all three branches of government. The GOP had every opportunity to make serious inroads toward ending the savage practice.

And you are 100% right as far as you go, but this is not a reason to give up the fight , this is the time to fight all the harder for Social conservatives as well as fiscal conservatives.

We need to elect leaders that are willing to be crucified in the press for drawing a line in the sand and saying this far and no farther.

Men and women of honor that are willing to stand up for the truth when the rest of the world says to sit down.

You may want to send this testimony out to the Pro-Life ping list. I teach in the MLT Department of our local community college and last week was the first week for the sophomore students in their clinical rotations. They spend Mondays on campus and today they were full of stories about the past week.

One of the students who is the mother of a toddler said that the most amazing thing that she saw was a 17 week-old fetus. The baby tragically died when the placenta ruptured. The student could not get over how well-developed the baby was - down to the tiny fingernails. She said that you could even tell that the baby was a boy. I could not resist saying that many would say that a fetus at this stage is an unviable tissue mass. At 17 weeks, it may be indeed be unviable, but it is certainly not a just a mass of tissue. We got into a conversation about how women who have abortions are not told the truth that they are killing a baby and not just eliminating a tissue mass and how they are often overcome with guilt when they find out what they have done. Not that she would have considered an abortion in the future, but she quickly said that she could NEVER have an abortion after that experience.

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