[pissant]

Certifigate Rages On......

[pissant]

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[TheNewPundit]

We will get our answers in federal court. Yes, from the law suit that was filed by a ‘truther’ and Clinton employee. Philip J Berg, the lawyer who filed the suit against Obama, also filed a suit connected to 911forthetruth, an organization that believes that the Bush admin knew the attacks were going to happen and took steps to allow them. In his file to the courts, he actually states Wikipedia and internet blogs as his evidence.

[keving]

This form is a recently issued birth certificate with the word laser in the lower left hand corner, a perforation across the certificate which leads me to believe that the person “printing” it out has not done this before, and is no proof unless one can determine when that data of the certificate was entered. Since data bases were not used - typewriters were - there should be a paper record containing the doctor hospital etc.

Did the local newspaper list births?

All in all it does not answer if he is a Natural Born Citizen of the USA. I want to see the Kenyan Birth certificate and Indonesian passport.

[SoCalConservative]

I’m praying this gets LONG legs!

[Scutter]

My personal opinion is that this is a wild goose chase and will not produce anything. This article reads like the ravings of a fanatic.

Seems like time would be better spent addressing the many bad policies that Obama has proposed. You know, the socialist ones that will ruin our economy?

[NoobRep]

Outstanding read-hopefully someone makes sure this gets to that crooked factcheck (not) organization and challenges them to answer these questions.

[Wil H]

Factcheck.org can’t even get the basic FACTS right.

They call the document a “Certification of Birth” (their quotes).

There is NO such document.

The document is a “Certification of Live Birth”.

You’d think if they are going to argue the semantics of the name of the document (which they do) they would get the FACTS correct, wouldn’t you?

[henry_reardon]

I love the irony of the site name “factcheck.org”, it’s so Orwellian.

[SERKIT]

Try running “Larry Sinclair” as a serach on FactCheck.org.....you WON’T be surprised......

[rodguy911]

Good stuff, when I want an analysis of the validity of a BC I will trust polarik and techdude long before factcheck.

[Boundless]

This is, as predicted, straight out of the
Kerry SF180 playbook:

Just show the document to In-The-Tank media pals,
and not the general public.

[Ghengis]

I have performed background checks on employee applicants. With what has been provided by the Obama campaign to this point, I would decline to hire him.

[Cicero]

Well, this raises a number of legitimate concerns. Why is Obama stonewalling on releasing his real records, and then delegating leftist stooges like DailyKos and FactCheck to push the legitimacy of these evidently forged and completely uncertified records?

He has been stonewalling for months.

Could it be that he was born in Kenya, adopted by his stepfather and renamed Barak Soetoro, with Indonesian citizenship, gave up his American citizenship as required by Indonesian law, and never bothered to reapply for it during the required period between ages 19 and 21?

In other words, first he was a Kenyan citizen, then he was an Indonesian citizen, and at no time in his life has he ever been a legitimate American citizen?

If this is not the real story, then release the full birth records. PROVE it. What hospital was he born in? Where’s the hospital from with the baby’s footprint on it? Where’s the original official birth certificate? Where is the current COLB? Is there, in fact, a COLB available that predates Barry’s recent vacation in Hawaii, or did he change it again this year?

Being president of the United States is a serious business. It’s not an entitlement, it’s something you have to earn. Among other things, you have to respect and swear to uphold the Constitution and not shift, dodge, and lie about the most basic facts, such as whether you are eligible to run in the first place.

[razorback-bert]

pinging me to read later

[nametrader]

I’ve been following for a couple of days....Let’s see what Monday brings. I wish that someone will bring this out on prime time during convention.
JK

[fanfan]

Hehehe.

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[HighlyOpinionated]

These people are pure amateurs at this. They make too many errors to be believable by any but the most gullible. I think there are plenty of Democrats blushing various shades of red over this.

WHEN Barry Dunham was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Indonesia in 1965-66, his US Birth Certificate was SEALED. It's not available to anyone, including the adult child. If Barrack Sr did not "adopt" Barry Soetoro and change his name and Citizenship status, or if the Dunhams did not "adopt" Barry Soetoro and change his Citizenship status and perhaps allow him to change his name to 'Obama,' then the Indonesian Adoption is Legal and Valid. If Sr or the Dunhams did adopt Barry Soetoro, then where ever he was adopted would have a valid certified Birth Certificate with the ADOPTED information on all the necessary lines.

So if we assume that Barack Sr and the Dunhams DID NOT adopt him, Barry Soetoro would still be his legal name and his legal citizenship is Indonesian. If the Dunhams did adopt him, investigators are assuming his last name was changed to Obama. Why not request the birth certificate for Barry Dunham or Barry Soetoro in Honolulu? Why not request the "name change documentation" for Barry Soetoro to Barack H. Obama, Jr (or II)?

My first born grandson was adopted out and his original birth certificate on file at the State Vital Statistics only states his adopted name and his adopted parents' names and their home town as his place of birth. Except for the fact that I applied for and received his original birth certificate before the adoption took place, there is NO documentation, other than adoption papers, that he was born to my daughter. So, I know what I'm talking about.

Barry Soetoro needs to be challenged and perhaps someone in Indonesia can obtain the birth certificate from there. If so, then THAT IS THE VALID birth certificate as it would be sealed if he was adopted as Barry Soetoro by his birth father or his grandparents.

The smugness will soon be replaced with the truth.

[JessieHelmsJr]

Wheres Dan Rather when you need him? LOL

[Plinko]

Having lurked around here I can say for certain that this will be my first and last post, this site has a looooong history of deleting and banning anyone who disagrees in even the slightest way. Ironic for "FREE republic" no?

In any event:

Barack Obama has been alive for 47 years, he went to school in America from fifth grade until he graduated High School. After that he went to a California college for two years, then finished at Columbia University when he went on to work at two very big companies.

In 1988 he went to Harvard Law School and obtained a position as editor of the most prestigious journal of legal scholarship in the world. The next year he was elected president of the journal.

At the time it was a HUGE deal that many, MANY people had a problem with because he was the first black man to obtain this position.

Barack Obama graduated in 1991. At that point in his life he could be called "Dr. Obama" but never does. He goes on to work at one of the oldest law firms in the world.

I'll stop there, I hate to put so much effort into what will be deleted but I just want to say this: If ANY of that was a surprise, if ANY of you had to look ANY of that up, if you were just fact checking or looking for holes in my story or looking to see if I spelled something right: you are VERY much behind the curve on a lot of people who have spent a lot more time, energy, and money looking into it.

There are people who's JOB it is to look into these things. People who did FAR more than sit at their computer, read one insanely biased and nonsense story, and came to conclusions based on...well the thoughts in their head frankly.

Sherlock Holmes at no point solved a case by sitting in his lounger smoking opium. He got up, looked at things. He investigated. Then he smoked opium.

People have been looking into his past, trying to dig up dirt, and generally trying to bring him down INCLUDING one of the most powerful political organizations in the world and no one has found anything. But. BUT one lone blogger spends 10 seconds looking at some pictures he found in the internet and suddenly blows the whole thing wide open? We're one sassy talking cat away from a blockbuster movie starring Bruce Willis.

It just makes me sad that the political discourse in America has gotten so sad that we now sit around agreeing with each other about how someone is involved in a 47 year old plot to...I have no idea honestly. Instead of looking at each candidate and examining the holes in their plans you're saying "Well one guy MUST be worse cause...uhhh...he's on the wrong side?"

Instead of saying WHY one guy is the best guy you are trying to prove that the other guy doesn't have the RIGHT to run against him. Why?

Have you ever run into a fanboy? Someone who loved Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony so much they defended every action no matter what and claimed that their Wii/360/PS3 was the best full stop and everything made by the OTHER company was terrible simply by being? Aren't they annoying?

Yes. Yes they are.

Use common sense people. I have my reasons why I'm not voting for Obama but I'd LOVE to see someone else have something other than "He's black popular inexperienced Democrat