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Pickens Gives New Meaning to 'Self-Government'
Junkscience.com ^ | July 31, 2008 | Steven Milloy

Posted on 08/23/2008 1:07:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek

The more you learn about T. Boone Pickens’ plan to switch America to wind power, the more you realize that he seems willing to say and do just about anything to make another billion or two.

(Excerpt) Read more at junkscience.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aquifer; energy; enviroprofiteering; globalwarming; ogallala; oil; pickens; pickensplan; scam; tboonepickens; windpower
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If Pelosi, Reid and Obama like his idea.....
1 posted on 08/23/2008 1:07:18 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20080710.html

http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20080724.html

Previous related articles.


2 posted on 08/23/2008 1:09:29 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
Sounds moe like he wants to convert America to "American power" ~ he advocates doing everything. At the same time he's investing his own money in windpower.

I prefer nukes.

3 posted on 08/23/2008 1:10:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Did you read the articles? He’s a crafty old bastard.


4 posted on 08/23/2008 1:11:25 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: muawiyah
I prefer nukes.

So do I. (I&C engineer in nuclear power for 25 years.)

5 posted on 08/23/2008 1:13:00 PM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: wolfcreek

T-Bone lost me the first time a heard one of his ads in his advertisement blitz. When he said, “We can’t drill our way out of this,” I knew where he was coming from. That garbage sounded really familiar.


6 posted on 08/23/2008 1:15:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (A History and Science Minute.- "Climate change" has been going on for millions of years!)
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To: wolfcreek
t-Bone, more oil in Hollywood and Los Angeles Basin than what your whirly birds will supply, but were the kickbacks too high for you, Mr Peckins
7 posted on 08/23/2008 1:18:02 PM PDT by kcm.org (Drill Los Angeles--home prices will go up)
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To: wolfcreek

I read the article. He’s a crafty old bastard who used to be a crafty young bastard. I met him a few times (years before the jowls), and boy oh boy is he charming. And smart.

As for the Sierra Club prez riding around in Pickens’ conveyances, no surprise. A few years ago the San Jose Mercury ran a series of articles on Club Sierra, it’s huge salaries, limos, private planes. Of course they’ll be in bed with Pickens and other crafty old bastards with the bucks to buy their endorsement.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 1:22:27 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: wolfcreek
Its easy to see how the poorly informed can be poorly informed, but Milloy gets paid for what he does. He has staff.

He doesn't know the difference between a municipal water district, a groundwater conservation district, and a water supply district.

You would at least expect Milloy to know how many landowners are in Mesa Water.

9 posted on 08/23/2008 1:27:41 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Veto!

As Rush said last Thursday, “It looks like we’ve lost T Boone.”

Good riddance.

To be charitable, I suspect senility. No doubt his head has been turned by some young bimbo “greenie” 1/4 his age. Same thing happened to Goldwater.

To be cynical, I’d say that everything in his life has always been all about him - he’d be on whichever side he thought his bread was buttered on.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 1:34:55 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase-2 Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber!)
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To: wolfcreek

Yea, lets keep sending the Arabs, Russians and others our money. Old habits die hard. The oil habit that is. One way or another we’ve got to break the oil habit and we should never be caught in a one fuel situation ever again. Especially a fuel that we can’t get for ourselves without depending on another country. The fact is we need to do all things, drill oil, drill nat gas, solar, nuclear, and heck yes wind. And I don’t care who’s plan it is, just so it keeps us from funding people like the Russian governments latest Georgian fiasco.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 1:37:36 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: Matchett-PI
"To be charitable, I suspect senility. "

T. Boone Pickens: "The first billion is the hardest."

yitbos

12 posted on 08/23/2008 1:42:26 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: wolfcreek
Crude oil went straight down nearly 25% the day after his rant about windmills was published in the wall street journal.

anyone even the tiniest bit skeptical would have to wonder if he didn't have a boatload to sell that day, and hoped to use his influence as oil guru to generate new interest in the market.

It's called "talking up your position.

13 posted on 08/23/2008 1:51:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when your bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: the invisib1e hand
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Which would suggest, of course, that at least that much of the price rise was unfounded by any "depletion" facts.

14 posted on 08/23/2008 1:52:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when your bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: Racer1
Yea, lets keep sending the Arabs, Russians and others our money.

I don't think anyone has said that. But, with respect to that subject, we are currently relying more and more on foreign nations to provide food, electronics, transporation, etc. Why is it okay to most around here ("Yay... it's free trade!") but it's not a good thing when we're talking energy? I haven't heard anyone promoting "food independence." If they do, they quickly get labeled an "isolationist."

The fact is we need to do all things, drill oil, drill nat gas, solar, nuclear, and heck yes wind.

I disagree. We need to pursue those things that are cost effective. Pouring billions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies and tax-credits into otherwise non-viable sources of energy is pure craziness and only lines the pockets of the T-Boones of the world.

15 posted on 08/23/2008 2:20:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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“Pouring billions of dollars in taxpayer funded subsidies and tax-credits into otherwise non-viable sources of energy is pure craziness and only lines the pockets of the T-Boones of the world.”

That’s why the Dims love him now. He meets most of their criteria.

Besides, those damn windmills are an ugly addition to the landscape.


16 posted on 08/23/2008 2:41:15 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
“It's called “talking up your position.”

I appreciate that but, my question is, “Where's the BEEF”

Anyone can *talk* a good game.

Also, he specified it could not be done without OUR help. Hmmm? Wonder what that means?

17 posted on 08/23/2008 2:46:55 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
That’s why the Dims love him now. He meets most of their criteria.

Even Harry Reid has come out recently and said that he once considered Pickens to be his mortal enemy, but now he's a great friend.

When Harry Reid loves you, what more needs be said.

18 posted on 08/23/2008 2:48:47 PM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: wolfcreek

bump


19 posted on 08/23/2008 3:06:39 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: Racer1

Oil shale. We have a 280 YEAR supply of oil, at 100% of our current oil needs. We use 20 million barrels a day, but we have 2 TRILLION barrels of recoverable oil in our oil shale reserves. And it’s recoverable at $40 per barrel.

We can stay on oil for a LONG time, until something much better AND cheaper AND more reliable comes along (like fusion). Why rush to wind and solar when we have literally centuries of oil here, in one reserve?


20 posted on 08/23/2008 3:18:37 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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