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To: Baladas

Hey, if these particular facts are “pro-Obama,” then that’s just the way it is. From my experience, factcheck.org really is pretty non-partisan. If they’d have found facts that were “anti-Obaman,” they’d have published those.

IOW, “pro” or “anti” don’t change the facts...


5 posted on 08/21/2008 4:54:28 PM PDT by piytar
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To: piytar
From my experience, factcheck.org really is pretty non-partisan.

Factcheck=Annenberg. I'll skip it.

14 posted on 08/21/2008 5:00:28 PM PDT by Stentor
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What is your experience? That gives you to say that the Annenberg FactCheck is non-partisan? Their emotionally laden and slandering adjectives in that non-biased article tell a different story.

You said it, now back it up.

17 posted on 08/21/2008 5:06:23 PM PDT by bvw
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Oh no...BHO made a mistake in one of his debates about how much he was receving from small money donors, and he blurted out a total lie. He was called on it, and factcheck agreed that he’d lied, and sugar-coated to what poor widdle Barry “really” meant. It’s on their site, their “analysis”.

But back on topic, I want to see these questions answered:


1. What took the campaign so long to show an actual document to the media?

2. What other media did the campaign offer to show the COLB to, and have any others seen it and touched it, handled and photographed it? Or only Annenberg-owned Factcheck?

3. Why did the campaign go to such trouble to digitally black out the certificate number when it could have stuck a piece of solid black tape over the number, especially since, as Factcheck reported, they were in such a hurry?

4. Why did Janice Okubo tell a reporter that the COLB was ordered “this month” (June 2008 ) if it was ordered in June 2007?

5. Since Factcheck is seemingly in the business of helping the Obama campaign fight smears, did Factcheck ask the campaign about the rumor that Republicans are holding Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate? If so, what was the campaign’s response? If not, why not?

And finally…

6. How did Factcheck end up getting this access? Did they ask the campaign, or did the campaign offer to show it to Factcheck? The article is mysteriously vague on that point: “FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate.”


http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/factcheckorg-has-new-birth-certificate-story/

The birth announcement convinces me that BHO was born in Hawaii, but factcheck didn’t with the swarmy reply:

“Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.”


22 posted on 08/21/2008 5:16:10 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: piytar
From my experience, factcheck.org really is pretty non-partisan.

You must have forgotten this episode in the life of Dan Rather:

Update on Bush's Guard Sevice: New Evidence of Preferential Treatment

September 9, 2004

(NOTE: This update was withdrawn Sept. 10 due to serious questions that emerged regarding the authenticity of the Killian memos released by CBS News.)

 

 

41 posted on 08/21/2008 7:05:25 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: piytar
Hey, if these particular facts are “pro-Obama,” then that’s just the way it is. From my experience, factcheck.org really is pretty non-partisan. If they’d have found facts that were “anti-Obaman,” they’d have published those.

IOW, “pro” or “anti” don’t change the facts...
You're right. It don't change the facts that they published a forgery for two months.
51 posted on 08/21/2008 8:41:44 PM PDT by Polarik ("The Greater Evil")
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