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Bush administration unveils new abortion regulation
LAT ^ | August 21, 2008 | James Gerstenzang

Posted on 08/21/2008 2:57:32 PM PDT by fightinJAG

The Bush administration proposed new rules today that critics say would make it more difficult for women to obtain abortions, and for men and women to obtain contraceptives.

After more than a month of internal -- and eventually public -- debate, the administration unveiled regulations that, if enacted, would provide stronger protections for doctors and other healthcare providers to refuse to perform medical procedures -- or, possibly, sell contraceptives -- if such steps violate their religious beliefs.

Jill Morrison, the senior counsel of the National Women's Law Center, told Countdown to Crawford when we reported on the draft regulation in July that it was "essentially a hit list against anything that protects a patient's rights to get access to legal and needed health services" in the area of reproduction.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: abortion; contraceptives; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; healthcare
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To: SouthDixie
In jeopardy of What?
21 posted on 08/21/2008 4:45:01 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Salvation
OK, if you must know, they were Opis Dei Catholics but they could have been any number of ultra conservative sects.
22 posted on 08/21/2008 4:46:03 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

a young girl who is that promiscuous is almost certainly being molested.

Abortion or birth control was not the problem. The child needed help.


23 posted on 08/21/2008 4:47:07 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Salvation

AMEN!


24 posted on 08/21/2008 4:54:51 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Salvation

Awesome. W is finishing strong on Life.


25 posted on 08/21/2008 5:11:52 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: gidget7

If the youth chose to participate in sex and are aware of the conseqences, they should have a right to thwart said possible pregnancy/abortions.


26 posted on 08/21/2008 5:24:14 PM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: SouthDixie
Luther, Calvin, The Methodists, the Episcopalians and the Catholics and many others opposed the use of Artificial Birth Control. The first crack in the virtually unanimous wall of opposition was the Anglican Lambeth Conference of 1930.

The Catholic Church continues to teach that the use of Artificial Birth Control is wrong. The teaching was most clearly re-affirmed in the 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae And that was before the abortifacient characteristic of some contraceptives was known.

In related news I know a GP who will not prescribe Viagra for unmarried men, if what they want it for is to enable sexual intercourse.

It seems to me the major practical consequence of this is that if you are going to engage in sexual intercourse with the intention that it be sterile, line up your docs ahead of time. In the long history of the world it has been only a short time that this was not considered a bad thing. Why physicians and pharmacists should be compelled to become accessories to acts they consider wrong is not clear to me.

27 posted on 08/21/2008 5:44:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wk4bush2004
Now the likelihood of Congress passing something like this is a different story

Congress has no part in this. It is a proposed regulation, strictly internal to the Executive branch.

28 posted on 08/21/2008 7:50:31 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: fightinJAG; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
I have to say, I am proud of President Bush right now. He's done a good job on the Life issues.

As McCain would say: My Friends, Obama said in a July speech “The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act,”

So when Obama says anything about reducing unwanted pregnancies and abortions he is LIEING.

The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) is legislation Obama has co-sponsored along with 18 other senators that would annihilate every single state law limiting or regulating abortion, including the federal ban on partial birth abortion.

The 2007 version of FOCA proposed: “It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.”

After McCain picks a Pro-Life VP I will be 100% behind him all the way.

Jill Stanek - Obama, “feeling blue,” FOCA, and gotcha
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/07/obama_mental_he.html

Obama’s Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08061010.html

29 posted on 08/21/2008 8:56:01 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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To: SouthDixie
If the youth chose to participate in sex and are aware of the conseqences, they should have a right to thwart said possible pregnancy/abortions.

I agree with you there. But I don't believe that right should extend to forcing others to help in preventing the pregnancies. This is especially so when that forced assistance goes against the deeply held beliefs of the doctor/pharmacist.

This isn't the usual case of the government stepping in between two willing adults. This is the government stepping *out* and not forcing someone go through with a transaction that is morally repugnant to them.

I believe I have the right to keep and bear arms. But that doesn't mean I have the right to force anyone to sell me a gun, least of all a pacifist.

30 posted on 08/21/2008 9:06:46 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: cpforlife.org; All

“After McCain picks a Pro-Life VP I will be 100% behind him all the way.”

I heard on Fox News radio this evening that Senator McCain has made up his mind (but of course isn’t telling yet).


31 posted on 08/21/2008 9:18:46 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SouthDixie
If the youth chose to participate in sex and are aware of the conseqences, they should have a right to thwart said possible pregnancy/abortions.

Oh yeah. THAT'S the ticket!

What if these youth want to do some serious drugs? Hand out the NEEDLES?????

32 posted on 08/21/2008 10:02:36 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Typical Whitey Gramma just like Obamies!)
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To: fightinJAG; Salvation
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


33 posted on 08/22/2008 3:58:17 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wk4bush2004
They just need to outlaw abortion, period.

And contraceptives, too?

34 posted on 08/22/2008 4:00:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SouthDixie

In that case, condoms are sold over-the-counter and would not be affected by the regulations.

And I’m sure Planned Parenthood will feel no moral compunction to abide by the law. So someone unintelligent enough to go to a different pharmacy...or even ask if there is another pharm on duty would have no problem buying their security.

I suppose they could just close their legs or put up with the consequences. Wait...no...that would be the mature, responsible thing to do.


35 posted on 08/22/2008 4:46:18 AM PDT by kimmie7 (My brother - my hero.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

That’s already being done.

And the dims are going to be free to break out the doobies at the convention too.

< my eyes are rolling so fast they look like a slot machine >


36 posted on 08/22/2008 4:47:46 AM PDT by kimmie7 (My brother - my hero.)
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To: kimmie7
I suppose they could just close their legs or put up with the consequences.

This topic is wearing me out, perhaps i'm not making myself clear enough. All i'm saying is, telling young adults they can't have contraceptives to avoid any abortion probability that may arise in the future, is displaying more irresponsibility than the kids not able to keep their legs closed in the first place. Saying, 'just don't do it' is irresponsible as well, cripes, weren't you young once? Weren't you damn glad your boyfriend brought a condom along on the date with the pizza and bottle of wine? Weren't you grateful your mother took you to the doctor for a birth control prescription? I'm just saying the youth of today have a right to that same freedom as well.
37 posted on 08/22/2008 5:03:53 AM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: cpforlife.org; MeekOneGOP; loboinok

I don’t think every doctor and pharamacist who received his or her education foresaw the social experiments that our nation is now enduring. While I normally prefer employers to be free to fire people, religious convictions do need some level of protection in a free society. I don’t have all the answers [obviously]. But it would be a sick world indeed for someone to study medicine for the purpose of healing and then, due to medical debt, feel coerced into practicing an abortion.

“After more than a month of internal — and eventually public — debate, the administration unveiled regulations that, if enacted, would provide stronger protections for doctors and other healthcare providers to refuse to perform medical procedures — or, possibly, sell contraceptives — if such steps violate their religious beliefs.”


38 posted on 08/22/2008 5:23:56 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Regarding Jerome Corsi and Obama Nation -- are you a book reader or a book burner?)
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To: SouthDixie
I'm STILL young...and well within my child-bearing years. I would LOVE to be able to have another child, but it just doesn't seem to be God's will.

Weren't you grateful your mother took you to the doctor for a birth control prescription?

Um, no. In fact, she didn't do that. I started the pill when I married. I went to the local health department and they gave me the exam and pills. Years later, I now a reasonable, intelligent adult stopped taking them altogether because I did the research and found the truth about them. I now regret taking them - not only on a moral level but with regard to health issues. I unwittingly exposed myself to all kinds of health risks including an increased chance for breast cancer. As an adult adoptee, I only recently found out that breast cancer is a real killer in our family. Without understanding the consequences of taking that little pill, I heightened my risk.

Not only that, the bc pills of today promise things like only 4 periods a year. Wow. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist (or even someone only slightly above the drool level) to realize that cannot possibly be healthy.

Weren't you damn glad your boyfriend brought a condom along on the date with the pizza and bottle of wine? Yep. I sure was. But if I'd been smart, I'd have gone to the movie with that nice young man who wouldn't have taken advantage of me. Part of being a responsible adult is not running around like an animal in heat.

Not to mention the fact that condoms are not under pharmacological control. You can get 'em at Wal-Mart, Target, in the bathroom at the truck stop along with some very fine perfume < ahem > or at Bubba's Beer, Bait and Lotto Emporium. If a "responsible" youth can't find a condom to buy they certainly don't need to be having sex. 'Cause they're stooopid.

39 posted on 08/22/2008 5:24:07 AM PDT by kimmie7 (My brother - my hero.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Idiot! Nitwit!

“due to medical debt” ? Urg — due to medical education debt.


40 posted on 08/22/2008 5:25:36 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Regarding Jerome Corsi and Obama Nation -- are you a book reader or a book burner?)
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