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1 posted on 08/21/2008 10:23:34 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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Obama lied and babies died.

Obama the aider and abettor to murder of the unborn.

This will not phase liberals as they could care less.

2 posted on 08/21/2008 10:27:46 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bump.


3 posted on 08/21/2008 10:28:18 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bookmark for later


4 posted on 08/21/2008 10:28:21 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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Well to be fair, in the Saddlebrook forum Barrack did say he did favor some restrictions on late-term abortions. Little did we know he meant six weeks after birth.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 10:28:23 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama is one sick person.


6 posted on 08/21/2008 10:29:12 AM PDT by boycott
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Obama fights for abortionist’s rights to throw live babies in the dumpsters.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 10:29:22 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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In a sane world, this issue would sink Obama. His actions here are indefensible.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 10:31:05 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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A “nonviable fetus” with movement?


9 posted on 08/21/2008 10:32:24 AM PDT by boycott
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do re me so fa...

You're preaching to the choir here. We already know this.

10 posted on 08/21/2008 10:35:45 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Rush playing the audio now.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 10:39:21 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A FReeper posted a thread on the audio available at youtube.

You can listen to it here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065197/posts

13 posted on 08/21/2008 10:41:03 AM PDT by mojito
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If I understand correctly, Obambi is saying that if the Dr. made a mistake by not really killing the baby and it comes out alive and it’s showing signs of life, that same Dr. (if you want to call it that) would do anything in his/her power to save the life he/she just tried to terminate? I have never heard of a case like that in the media or anywhere else. I have never heard of a “Dr.” saving the life of a baby who was being aborted and had the AUDACITY of living.

I’m sure this feeling is mutual: This makes me sick!


19 posted on 08/21/2008 10:59:00 AM PDT by GauchoUSA
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Obama — the PROTECTOR of ABORTIONISTS, but not babies who are born alive!!


20 posted on 08/21/2008 11:00:21 AM PDT by MaineConservative (Charlie Summers -- an Iraqi Vet and businessman for Maine's CD-1)
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A package of Born Alive bills was introduced three times during Obama’s tenure.

The cornerstone bill was the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which defined legal personhood. This definition was identical to the federal BAIPA (1) which was drafted from the definition of “live birth” created by the World Health Organization in 1950 (2) and adopted by the United Nations in 1955 (3)....

Here I will only post links to Obama’s actions and votes on the cornerstone bill, the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The bill number changed every year it was reintroduced.

2001

Senate Bill 1095 (4), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote (5) in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2001.

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (6), March 30, 2001, pages 84-90

Obama’s verbal oppostion to Born alive, (7) “And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.” March 30, 2001

Obama’s “present” vote on the IL Senate floor ( 8 ), March 30, 2001

2002

Senate Bill 1662 ( 9 ), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Go here to view Obama’s “no” vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee (10) on March 6, 2002. (ABC inadvertently coped bill #1663, a companion bill. The vote for the Born Alive bill, #1662, was identical.)

Transcript of Obama’s verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor (11), April 4, 2002, pages 28-35

Obama’s “no” vote on the IL Senate floor (12), April 4, 2002

2003

Senate Bill 1082 (13), Born Alive Infant Protection Act

Democrats took control of the IL Senate with the 2002 elections. They sent Born Alive to the infamously liberal Health & Human Services Committee, chaired by Barack Obama (14).

As can be seen on the Actions docket (15), Obama held Born Alive on March 6, 2003, from even being voted on in committee. It is also important to note from the docket that on March 13, 2003, Obama stopped the senate sponsor from adding the lately discussed clarification paragraph (16) from the federal BAIPA, to make the bills absolutely identical.

1. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h107-2175

2. http://www.who.int/healthinfo/statistics/indunder5mortality/en/

3. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/sconcerns/natality/natmethods.htm

4. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1095.html

5. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_32701.pdf

6. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

7. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

8. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1095_03302001_030000T.PDF

9. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/status/920SB1662.html

10. http://www.jillstanek.com/Senate_Committee_Vote_3502.pdf

11. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST040402.pdf

12. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls92/920SB1662_04042002_014000T.pdf

13. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

14. http://www.ilga.gov/senate/committees/members.asp?GA=93&committeeID=85

15. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=1082&GAID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=3910&SessionID=3&GA=93

16. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09300SB1082sam001&GA=93&SessionId=3&DocTypeId=SB&LegID=3910&DocNum=1082&GAID=3&Session=


21 posted on 08/21/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by Joiseydude
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bfl


25 posted on 08/21/2008 11:12:21 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick like McCain. Go against anything he wants us to do.)
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“in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead”

that’s pretty clinical for a senator, isn’t it?


28 posted on 08/21/2008 11:18:15 AM PDT by antioscar
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Further on in the transcript Obama gives us this gem: ...I think its important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births. Because if these are children that are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they're looked after."

Which would explain why that nurse who had testified before Mr. Obama had to go into that disposal area and cradle the aborted infant untill it died. Right. Disgusting.

36 posted on 08/21/2008 11:58:35 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: Free ThinkerNY; cpforlife.org; narses; Coleus; Mr. Silverback; Fred Nerks; redgolum; MHGinTN
Has anyone transcribed and converted from pdf Obama's entire comments on the "born alive" abortion bill when it was up for a vote?

They should be posted in their entirety on FR so EVERYONE can see he's not telling the truth.

40 posted on 08/21/2008 12:56:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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44 posted on 08/21/2008 4:34:05 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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