Posted on 08/19/2008 4:43:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah, I’m testy. I’ll never forget sitting there with my Viet Nam veteran husband watching the tube when McCain stepped onto the tarmac. We had such hopes for McCain, and he’s managed to disappoint every time. Danny served in the Navy too. On a Marine unit patrolling the Mekong River near DaNang. No, he wasn’t a POW. He was a 17 year old kid and a hero. We lost him about a month ago. He was ten times the man John McCain ever was or will be.
Salud!
Careful with that ‘woman’ thing.......what’s scary is so many of these Rino’s sound like women, kinda like the lefties.
fightinJAG wrote:
““Those who refuse to vote for McCain, whatever their reasons and no matter how legitimate their reasons are, are helping Obambi get elected and doing nothing to help defeat him.””
And AuntB replied:
“Fine, maybe you’d be happy if I just vote Obama. One traitor is as good as the next”
You’re wasting your time, man.
Anyone on this forum who believes McCain to actually be a “traitor” isn’t worth the waste of electrons.
Ms. Auntie, you may just get EXACTLY what you deserve this election.
Here’s to hoping that you DON’T...
- John
It’s sad to see those that call themselves conservatives being sucked into the liberal trap by voting for a pseudo-conservative candidate that happens to place an (R) beside his name. They fail to even realize that liberals have outflanked them by ensuring that they have two liberal candidates to pick from, one a radical marxist liberal, and the other just a plain liberal in conservative clothing. Yet they lay the blame for a liberal winning the office because some conservative voters refuse to vote for the lesser evil/liberal. They are exactly the reason why the GOP is infested with cockroach RINO’s. As my tagline says, they have chosen to ingest the slow-acting poison.
True.
But the discussion tends to bring in good points by others, such as the point you made.
“Ms. Auntie, you may just get EXACTLY what you deserve this election.”
That’s right, you and John McCain decide what I ‘deserve’.
We deserve an honest, fair election, but we’ve got this. You go ahead and perpetuate this kind of DANGEROUS trend.
Be proud.
I’ll stick with a guy a bit wiser and patriotic. You go ahead and vote for McCain.
”Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” - John Quincy Adams”
What possible grounds do you have for that statement?
I understand very well that you do not "want" either of the nominees.
My point is: so what?
You are going to get one of the nominees, and no matter what you do, you are going to help one of these two nominees get elected.
The only question I am asking you is, since you will in fact help McCain get elected unless you vote for Obambi---which, I take it, you won't do---why not go further and help defeat Obambi?
As I said, if you were willing to take responsibility for the fact that your refusal to vote for McCain helps Obambi get elected, and vice versa, at least then it would appear you thought through the actions you conclude "protect America.".
I admire you for at least conceding the obvious that, so long as you don't vote for Obambi, you are helping McCain anyway.
I do wish you would reconsider your decision to do nothing to help defeat Obambi.
But, as you said, that's a waste of time, I fear.
As for me, I will do everything in my power to help defeat Obambi and the Rats.
I can understand that princples are not something you normally deal with and that is why you are having such a difficult time understanding which way to turn.
Your guy, McCain is a socialist. That, to me means I can’t vote for him either. May I suggest that you bring another candidate, an acceptable one, into play the game.
My definition of how a veteran should “help defeat Obambi” and “protect America” is not currently legal. Until the people see him to be the threat that he is, I don’t expect it will become legal.
Our courts didn’t have the fortitude to give Robert Hanssen, one of the most prominent traitors in US history, the death penalty and I doubt they will see Obamma as being the dangerous traitor that he is either.
As I said, there is no expiration date on the oath I took, so stop asking me to violate it.
On what do you base that statement, please?
I simply disagree with you on what's best for the nation in terms of voting in this presidential election. That is quite different from your fantastic and wrong extrapolation that, therefore, "principles are not something [I] normally deal with."
And it's laughable that you accuse me of "having such a difficult time understanding which way to turn."
I am having no difficulty whatsoever in determining what I think is the right course of action for me on Election Day.
I have no doubt in my mind that, for me, it is my moral obligation to help defeat Obambi and I intend to proceed accordingly.
You, apparently, disagree with that assessment. I accept that. Unlike you, however, I will not accuse of you being unfamiliar with dealing in principles.
P.S. Since you have made this over-the-top statement several times, I am going to address it.
No one, least of all me, is "asking you to violate your oath."
I am engaging you in a discussion of the rationality of your analysis of what it means to "protect" the United States.
I disagree with your analysis that sitting by and not doing what one can to defeat Obambi is somehow "protecting" the nation.
That is all.
Sorry, I didn't see this statement in full before I replied previously.
For the record, I disassociate myself from this statement.
Time to move along.
B4Ranch wrote: My definition of how a veteran should “help defeat Obambi” and “protect America” is not currently legal. Until the people see him to be the threat that he is, I don’t expect it will become legal.
Big man!
Yet you cannot even bring yourself to *vote* against him (Obambi).
Put me on his jury and I guarantee you that I will vote GUILTY /DEATH SENTENCE.
If that qualifies me as a “Big man!”, so be it. It’s not my fault you don’t have the balls to send a traitor to Death Row.
Why don’t you go outside and pick some weeds out of the lawn or something? Stop posting to me.
I’m sorry for your loss.
Thank you for your service, and for his.
I you have read ANYTHING about the creation of the present Constitution, you would realize the founding fathers were NOT purists. They compromised. And the Constitution is better because of it.
They compromised with one another, not with loyalists.
We don’t need to be compromising with nanny staters, borderline Democrats, liberals of ANY PARTY, big government advocates or control freaks of any kind.
You either have enough votes to win (which we obviously don’t) or you compromise. Those are the only two real choices. If you don’t you lose faster. You are advocating that we should lose faster.
Unfortunately, too many people here would rather lose than convince enough people to vote with them. That means talking to people who DON”T believe what we believe in instead of preaching to the choir. Saying, “I am taking my marbles and am going home.” is MORE childish when it comes to politics than it was when you were a kid.
Have fun puffing up your chest and telling everyone on a conservative website how tough you are. It doesn’t mean anything.
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