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So now all hempispheric poverty is our fault, not the result of their disfunctional governments, and we are supposed to pay to fix it. This is going in my unmitigated gall file.
1 posted on 08/19/2008 11:38:39 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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Oscar Arias is a lefty of the “hold hands and sing kum-ba-ya” variety. You have many such people in Costa Rica (which is a welfare state/tourist park/retirement center rather than a country).


2 posted on 08/19/2008 11:40:56 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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The article misspelled mierda.


3 posted on 08/19/2008 11:41:35 AM PDT by steve8714 (Curtis Strange ruined a man better than himself.)
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...Like all developed nations, the U.S. must confront the fact that no country can be safe while poverty, illiteracy, violence, preventable diseases and environmental destruction wreak havoc on others

All these problems Latin America has inflected on themselves with their tendency to look for a savior in some caudillo like Chavez, Peron, etc, lack of rule of law, and anti-capitalist attitudes. Only when these attitudes change, which would require a major shift in culture, will Latin America enjoy a semblance of prosperity.

5 posted on 08/19/2008 11:43:07 AM PDT by C19fan
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Latin America deserves better than a border wall

Let's play one of my favorite games: "Agree with the title of a leftist article." The prerequisite is that you can't read the article first.

Yes Latin America deserves better than that. Its people must choose leaders who believe in personal freedom, property rights, the free market and eliminating government corruption and nepotism. Quality of life will increase, eliminating the current need for us to build a wall. Unfortunately, the people in Latin America tend to vote for socialists who ruin their economies, or allow dictators to take over and loot their economies.

6 posted on 08/19/2008 11:43:38 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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America deserves better than to be overrun by illegals who aren’t interested in becoming Americans...


7 posted on 08/19/2008 11:45:58 AM PDT by bcsco (Contact McCain today. NO to pro-choice VP!)
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Latin America deserves better than a border wall

Of course they deserve better than a border wall! They also deserve a mine field north of that wall with snipers posted at regular intervals. If mines are too cruel then perhaps a mountain lion habitat in the same area would work.

8 posted on 08/19/2008 11:46:43 AM PDT by mindjam (Is it time to play cowboys and mexicans yet?)
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“Our countries are working together to fight transnational gangs. And the President (Berger) was right – I suggested we think about this issue regionally. You’ve got to understand that these gangs are able to move throughout Central America and up through Mexico into our own country, and therefore, we’ve got to think regionally and act regionally.”

President George W. Bush, March 12, 2007 Guatemala City

Then why haven't you put troops on the border instead of putting the very people who are trying to stop this in jail (Ramos and Compean)?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9 posted on 08/19/2008 11:48:56 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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Apparently, drug trafficking, just like AIDS, is caused by a lack of funding.


11 posted on 08/19/2008 11:53:47 AM PDT by ikka
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Latin America deserves better than the communist thugs that they have for leaders...


13 posted on 08/19/2008 11:54:06 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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So Oscar is basically saying “Don’t build a wall, just send us the money”.


14 posted on 08/19/2008 11:54:48 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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It’s like a gated community — to keep the criminals out.


15 posted on 08/19/2008 11:54:56 AM PDT by Dagny&Hank
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no country can be safe while poverty, illiteracy, violence, preventable diseases and environmental destruction wreak havoc on others....

No kidding.

drugs and illegal immigration...are symptoms, not diseases. The disease itself, the cause of these visible effects, is poverty...

He needs to read Hernando de Soto. You can't understand the causes of poverty if you don't understand the causes of wealth. The key to a prosperous society is simple, if difficult to give birth to.

It requires rule of law, first and foremost.

It requires individual freedom, so that men are free to do what they know to do, to make decisions as they themselves know to make them.

It requires legal clarity, so that all sides of a dispute know what the legal ramifications are.

It requires a transparent and honest court system, so that everyone rich and poor alike can accumulate the fruit of their labor and see their assets protected. Land needs to be protected with legal titles, and those titles need to be respected. This is one of the most important issues; in much of latin america the poor do not have title to their land, and can not accumulate wealth because of it.

A populist dictator who seizes and redistributes wealth is the worst thing that can happen, because the only way to be protect your assets in such a system is to have friends in high places, which completely undoes rule of law and all the protections that are necessary for anyone to accumulate wealth. Populism causes oligarchy, it guarantees it. Every time. Populism makes oligarchy necessary.

This writer doesn't know that, so he doesn't understand his own history, how generation after generation, revolution after revolution, they always find themselves right back at square one. Their solutions to the problem are the cause of the problem.

16 posted on 08/19/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by marron
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Fighting drug traffickers is not only a Latin American responsibility, it is also an American responsibility...Like all developed nations, the U.S. must confront the fact that no country can be safe while poverty, illiteracy, violence, preventable diseases and environmental destruction wreak havoc on others....drugs and illegal immigration...are symptoms, not diseases.

The Mexican government must stamp out corruption among the Mexican government, Mexican police, and Mexican military. End the crossings by the Mexican military escorting Mexican drug smugglers NOW.

If you give them more money, it is just going to feed more corrupt officials.

18 posted on 08/19/2008 12:00:27 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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“But for every mile of that fence, 2,500 young Latin Americans could receive monthly $100 grants to cover the costs of staying in school so they can get good jobs.”

So now we need to be paying Mexicans to stay in school so they can get better jobs when they come to America. So much for them taking the jobs that no one else wants.


21 posted on 08/19/2008 12:03:35 PM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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Latin America deserves better than a border wall

How uncouth.. Can we get some of those broken bottles that they use to top fences with in Latin America to do the project right?

22 posted on 08/19/2008 12:04:48 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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What have they done to “deserve” anything other than what the tyrants they tolerate have afforded them? Is it true that 1/3 of the US prison population is an illegal as I’ve heard on radio commercials for Michael Savage?


23 posted on 08/19/2008 12:11:14 PM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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Latin America Deserves Better Than A Border Wall


24 posted on 08/19/2008 12:13:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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Yep, they do deserve better than a border wall, they deserve .50 caliber machine guns, army patrols at regular intervals and shoot on sight orders. That is what they deserve. Bob Barr can go suck an egg.


25 posted on 08/19/2008 12:14:15 PM PDT by calex59
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This is what I have noticed about Oscar Arias and his fellow travelers.

1. It is America’s fault Latin America is an impoverished hell-hole.

2. No Latin American leader is ever responsible for the corruption and feudalism that permeates their countries. The people are never responsible for transforming their own societies.

3. The US is the devil; therefore, we must colonize America and make it as corrupt, backwards and feudalistic as the rest of Latin America.

4. Keep sending US taxpayer money to sustain this system of guilt, corruption and blackmail.


28 posted on 08/19/2008 12:49:12 PM PDT by Advocate4America
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Yes, when 25% of the population of an entire nation walks into a neighboring country, in violation of that country's laws and sovereignty, they certainly deserve, ie have earned through meritous acts, better treatment. *rolling eyes*

What's even more galling is that Mexico border agents are allowed, by law, to shoot at Nicaraguan, Salvadoran, Honduran, and Guatemalan poor people try to cross their border in an effort to find higher paying jobs.

Mexico's GDP is over $1 TRillion, their per capita income ($10,000 USD/yr) is well over the global average (ie, they ain't actually poor), and the average for their poorer neighbors to the south is about 1/3 their income.

29 posted on 08/19/2008 1:35:38 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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