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The sad demise of ‘On Line Opinion’ (Global Warming/AIDS alarmists bruise easy)
On Line Opinion ^ | July 2, 2008 | Clive Hamilton

Posted on 08/19/2008 9:03:54 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

In an email exchange with the editors of On Line Opinion, I have explained why I will not be contributing any further pieces to the site because it has been “captured” by climate change denialists. At the request of Graham Young I am putting my arguments into this last piece for On Line Opinion. At least, it will be my last unless and until the journal returns to the objectives it was set up to pursue.

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There I also explain why I do not presume to engage in arguments about climate science because I do not have the expertise to do so without making a fool of myself. Denialists without any scientific qualifications, or irrelevant ones, show no such humility.

According to the line of argument about balance, it would be perfectly acceptable for On Line Opinion to carry a series of articles repudiating the link between AIDS and the HIV virus. (Try googling AIDS denialism.)

The AIDS denialists have to account for the fact that the overwhelming weight of medical and epidemiological evidence is against them, so they must invent fanciful theories about colonialist plots and gay capture of science to compensate for the lack of hard evidence to support their beliefs.

This is exactly what the climate change denialists do, and each time On Line Opinion runs one of their pieces it is, inter alia, endorsing their view that Australia's most eminent climate scientists are frauds and liars.

(Excerpt) Read more at onlineopinion.com.au ...


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If what follows demonstrates anything, it demonstrates our opponents ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SCIENCE:p>

Wikipedia on "denialism"

"Denialism is a relatively new term used to describe the position of governments, business groups, interest groups, or individuals who reject propositions on which a scientific or scholarly consensus exists. Such groups and individuals are said to be engaging in denialism when they seek to influence policy processes and outcomes by using rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of argument or legitimate debate, when in actuality there is none.[1][2] The term was first used in the sense of 'holocaust denialism', but the usage has broadened to include 'AIDS denialism',[3][4][5][6][7], 'climate change denialism'[8][9][10], and 'evolution denialism'.[11]"

 

1 posted on 08/19/2008 9:03:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Wow - maybe this guy now knows how I (as a denier) feel on just about every other board that has embraced GW theories...


2 posted on 08/19/2008 9:06:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: All

Excellent quote from Harper’s article re: HIV/AIDS skeptics (applies every bit as much to human-caused global warming skeptics):

“Those who wish to engage the AIDS research establishment in the sort of causality debate that is carried on in most other branches of scientific endeavor are tarred as AIDS ‘denialists,’ as if skepticism about the pathogenicity of a retrovirus were the moral equivalent of denying that the Nazis slaughtered 6 million Jews. Moral zeal rather than scientific skepticism defines the field. It has been decided in advance that HIV causes AIDS; consequently all research and all funding must proceed from that assumption.”

I strongly encourage FReepers to read the entire article:

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/03/0080961


3 posted on 08/19/2008 9:06:54 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; DaveLoneRanger; Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; ...

ping!


4 posted on 08/19/2008 9:08:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: All

If you would like to be added to the RETHINKING AIDS PING LIST drop me a FReepmail.

AIDS is the biggest public health scam in medical history. Like global warming, AIDS is being used to push a powerful leftist political agenda. For over two decades the Public Health Establishment has used your tax dollars and the full power of the federal government to wage a massive propaganda (and intimidation) campaign designed to:

(A) prevent the American public from hearing the scientific evidence that suggests HIV may not cause AIDS
(B) scare the public into thinking "we are all at risk"
(C) coverup the extreme toxicity of AIDS chemotherapy drugs (which are not just used on "fast-track" gays and junkies, but also given to pregnant mothers, infants, and children)
(D)
use this fear to push a leftist social agenda that includes socialized medicine, and the promotion of homosexuality and explicit sex "education" to tender-aged school children
(E)
use their "public health mandate" to bypass the authority of parents and local school boards who object to their social engineering schemes
(F) create a massive federal bureaucracy encouraging the use of addictive drugs, to include prescription heroine
(G) use threats and intimidation to silence dissenting scientists and to keep the press from covering the debate
(H) and finally, to use AIDS as a model to push similar social agendas with respect to future epidemics.

Every single point above can be documented on my profile page.

If you would like to be added to the RETHINKING AIDS PING LIST drop me a FReepmail.


5 posted on 08/19/2008 9:09:07 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Tzimisce

No, he doesn’t know. Because when confronted with conflicting information, he put his tail between his legs and ran.


6 posted on 08/19/2008 9:14:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts


The Global Warming movement has no use for the scientific method - especially the part when it pertains to a hypothesis being false.
7 posted on 08/19/2008 9:20:20 AM PDT by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Why did Joyce Ann Hafford keep taking a drug she knew she was having a reaction to?
Because the doctors told her to? There has to be more to that story. Very few people believe doctors are gods and do what ever they tell them without question.
8 posted on 08/19/2008 9:26:40 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: GodGunsGuts

Then what is the word that describes those who give the appearance of a scientific or scholarly consensus when in actuality there is none?


9 posted on 08/19/2008 9:27:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Clive Hamilton: In an email exchange with the editors of On Line Opinion, I have explained why I will not be contributing any further pieces to the site because it has been "captured" by climate change denialists. At the request of Graham Young I am putting my arguments into this last piece for On Line Opinion. At least, it will be my last unless and until the journal returns to the objectives it was set up to pursue.
IOW, until it returns to purging the site of any views other than his own.
10 posted on 08/19/2008 9:28:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

see the quote and link here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2064316/posts?page=3#3


11 posted on 08/19/2008 9:29:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Apparently, the same thing happened to Arthur Ashe. For many, the prospect of standing up to their doctor can be a very intimidating prospect:

“Arthur Ashe also took AZT. After his death, New York Daily News columnist Earl Caldwell reported that Ashe had ‘wanted to’ break away from his treatment, but was worried about giving offense. ‘What will I tell my doctors?’ he said to a friend.”

http://www.duesberg.com/media/tbcure-2.html


12 posted on 08/19/2008 9:50:54 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: SunkenCiv

==IOW, until it returns to purging the site of any views other than his own.

It would appear, we are up against a movement that goes far beyond global warming, AIDS, etc. This movement is but a tentacle of the political “LEFT.” And as part of its creeping revolution, it intends to transform science into a political tool designed to further their desire for social control/tyranny.


13 posted on 08/19/2008 9:57:51 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: NonValueAdded

Liar.


14 posted on 08/19/2008 9:59:38 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Touche!!! 3 point shot. Gooooooooooooooooaaaaaalllll! Nailed it. The absolute clarity of the 101st Airborne response "Nuts!" The winner and still champion, GGG!

Well done, FRiend.

15 posted on 08/19/2008 10:02:24 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (College kid: "Do you have a minute for Obama?" NVA: "Not now or ever.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

LOL Yep they do not like when someone confronts them with facts. Fact is that the temperture has been dropping each year after 1998. Many areas like here are barely reaching 80ºf and it should be the dog days of Auguest.


16 posted on 08/19/2008 10:04:25 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: GodGunsGuts
Hamilton has a BA in Pure Mathematics from the Australian National University, a BEc (First Class Honours) in Economics from the University of Sydney and a PhD in economics from the University of Sussex.

Well, at least he did not flunk Divinity like his cult leader. While Mathematics has been labelled "The Queen of the Sciences", I see no Climatology nor Meterology there. Perfect Mathematics fed incorrect or fabricated data can only yield incorrect results.

17 posted on 08/19/2008 10:14:06 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: GodGunsGuts

18 posted on 08/19/2008 10:18:16 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: GodGunsGuts
Robin Warren and Barry Marshall won he 2005 Nobel Prize in Medicine (one of the real prizes) because they were denialists. They asserted that a bacteria caused most peptic ulcers - not stress as accepted by "consensus scientists."

Copernicus was a denialist who asserted the heliocentric solar system as opposed to the "consensus science" that held the Earth as center of the universe.

19 posted on 08/19/2008 10:34:46 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: SunkenCiv; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

PS Here’s a link to a video exposing the junk science behind AIDS, put out in the 1990s by the same people who produced the “THE GREAT GLOBAL WARMING SWINDLE” Excellent.

http://immunity.org.uk/media/The_AIDS_Catch_Web.wmv


20 posted on 08/19/2008 10:50:23 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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