Posted on 08/18/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by marktwain
Point taken. It may well be one in the same since we’re talking a center mass shot but the word choice will make a difference - in the court room.
Its not that sobering - there still seems to be plenty of people around attacking innocent citizens.
Perhaps theres just a proportion of abandoned folk about who will always be with us.
“When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.”
Taking someone elses life is not exciting or heroic. Its something you do because you HAVE to, and even then, the normal person will agonise and have nightmares and, as the author says, second-guess themselves.
People like Tarantino do enormous damage. I know that technically his direction and camera angles and use of color are all excellent, but the message of his films is IMHO, immoral in extremis.
Good point!
Our instructor (reserve Deputy) said that we were never shooting to kill, but that we were shooting to stop the threat (even if it resulted in the death of the perp). Shooting to kill was fodder for DAs and the perp's family. Shooting to stop the threat was a better statement to make when asked about the events at hand.
Doesn't happen that way. Worst thing in the world is an 'eyewitness', especially a number of them. No one sees the same thing, and all views are different and some conflict.
The police, coming on a shooting scene are going to cuff and hold everyone involved until the physical evidence can be determined, examined and a decision made by the DA.
Taking a life may not be exciting or heroic, but it’s also not “tragic” in my opinion when a piece of human refuse is eliminated from the gene pool.
“The lesson?... and shoot to kill.”
NO
To stop the threat.
Two words: Center Mass
Colonel, USAFR
But there are not enough CCW permit holders out there right now to make the marginal characters stop and think.
"Because six wasn't enough and after the seventh, he went down."
Read this somewhere. Most likely here in FR.
armed citizen ping...
You want to say something like "He gave me no choice! I was sure he was about to kill me. I had to stop him!" Then you say "I want a lawyer." And then you shut up.
And if you can't say these things with a clear conscience, you have no business pulling the trigger.
-ccm
What a load of unadulterated crappola. I've known a lot of warriors in my day. Guys who fought in every war from WWII thru Korea and 'Nam and now the WOT. I speak to them as we wait for our VA Clinic Appointments. I speak to my friends returning from the Theater of Operations. I can't think of a single one showing a SHRED of remorse for having efficiently eliminated an enemy combatant. I remember the horror of a reporter who asked a special forces sniper what he felt when he killed a tango at long range and he stonily replied: What do I feel? Recoil.
Go over to YOU TUBE and do any kind of search you want on combat videos. Tell me if the Marines or soldiers sound sad when they kill an enemy combatant. EXAMPLE 1 EXAMPLE #2 (warning language!)
Now translate that home to a police officer standing between you and the wolves. He knows the liberals expect him to feel great remorse and this he shows until it's time to go behind closed doors with his buddies and break out the beer. Don't think the same thing doesn't happen after a successful self defense by anybody besides a liberal who feels the gawd awful guilt trips laid upon him by spineless sniveling vermin who would rather knuckle under and crawl before they'll hurt any living thing.
If you want to know more about the effect of legally sanctioned killing on those who do the killing on behalf of the rest of us, LtCol. David Grossman has written several books on the subject. He is a psychologist, as well as a US Army ranger (now retired) and ROTC instructor at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro.
If the first one is looking you in the eyes and 10 feet from you as you pull the trigger, it’s traumatic.
Please don't hurt me! I'll do anything you want! Take my car, my wallet, anything, just please don't hurt me!
The two stop and just look at him with puzzled expressions.
As he's screaming he's grinning like a wolf and drawing his 1911 up to firing position. The perps instantly knew he was setting up his defense in court: That little old lady would testify that all she knew was she heard this poor man begging for his life and then she heard a series of shots! The two punks ran away at high speed.
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