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McCain's Saddleback Grand Slam
Human Events ^ | August 18 2008 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 08/18/2008 6:06:46 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter

Barack Obama bumped into something hard on Saturday night. The nuanced naif of Illinois preceded -- in Paris Hilton’s wonderful snark -- the “wrinkly white-haired dude” in Pastor Rick Warren’s civility summit and came up very short.

You can judge how well McCain did by the minimalist coverage in the media. The highlights reported here were virtually ignored in the Sunday papers.

McCain has never been better. His self deprecation, his humor, and his life story turned the back-to-back interviews into a conclusive demonstration that he is ready for the presidency and Obama isn’t. Continued -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored Links: Amazing Japanese Longevity Secret Ann Coulter: Get Ann's scathing commentary by email every week! Breaking News: Over 2,000 Failing Mutual Funds to Dump Right Now! BRIC Investor Report: Brazil, Russia, India & China stocks Laura Ingraham's New "Power to the People" -- Yours FREE!

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McCain was energized, comfortable and quietly eloquent in explaining why his life proves the most important of qualities in a president: character and core beliefs. Obama -- consistently charming and shallow -- demonstrated neither of those qualities.

John McCain was a prisoner of the North Vietnamese for more than five years. Researching an article four years ago on John Kerry’s antiwar activities during many of those same years, I interviewed more than a half-dozen of McCain’s fellow POWs. Each of them, in much the same words, said “I wouldn’t be alive today but for the personal courage of John McCain.”

That courage was explained, calmly, by McCain when Warren asked him to describe the most difficult “gut-wrenching” decision in his life.

McCain answered, “It was long ago and far away in a prison camp in North Vietnam. My father was a high ranking admiral. The Vietnamese came and said that I could leave prison early. And we had a code of conduct that said you only leave by order of capture. I also had a dear and beloved friend who was from California by the name of Ed Alvarez who had been shot down and captured a couple years before me. But I wasn't in good physical shape. In fact I was in rather bad physical shape.”

“So I said no. Now, in interest of full disclosure, I'm very happy I didn't know the war was going to last for another three years or so. But I said no. And I'll never forget. The high-ranking officer who offered it slammed the door and the interrogator said go back to your cell, it's going to be very tough on you now. And it was. But [it was] not only the toughest decision I ever made but I'm most happy about that decision than any decision I've ever made in my life. It took a lot of prayer. It took a lot of prayer.”

In answer to the same question, the best Obama could do was to claim his decision to oppose the war in Iraq was his toughest. How that was a gut-wrenching decision he didn’t explain. Given the fact that his campaign for the Democratic nomination succeeded because that “decision” gave Obama a huge advantage among the anti-war liberals who control the Democratic Party, Obama’s answer revealed political calculation, not moral courage.

McCain was presidential; Obama was a policy wonk. Warren, in the context of taxation, asked each candidate to define who is rich. Obama wandered around to conclude that a family whose income is $150,000 or less is “middle class.” McCain defined “rich” not in terms of dollar income, but in security, opportunity and freedom to choose the future of the family’s children. McCain sounded Reaganesque: “I think that rich is -- should be defined -- by a home, a good job and education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.”

McCain took a full swing on question after question. Obama bunted.

Answering Warren’s question of when a baby is entitled to human rights, Obama said, “Well, I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.”

Obama said he was pro-choice. When pressed to say whether he’d ever voted to limit abortions, Obama slipped and slid around the question, claiming he was in favor of limits on late-term abortions, but cited no example of ever voting for legislation to create such limits. McCain said plainly that he believed that life beings at conception and that, “I will be a pro-life president and this presidency will have pro life policies. That's my commitment, that's my commitment to you.”

Obama defined marriage as between a man and a woman but then launched into an academic disquisition on why he wouldn’t support a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He said, “I think my faith is strong enough and my marriage is strong enough that I can afford those civil rights to others even if I have a different perspective or a different view.” Obama apparently believes gay marriage is a “civil right.” McCain doesn’t.

McCain -- an attack pilot, not a lawyer -- apparently has a deeper understanding of Constitutional law than the former chief of the Harvard Law Review. He said he’d support a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, “…If a Federal court decided that my state of Arizona had to observe what the state of Massachusetts decided, then I would favor a Constitutional amendment.” The Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution compels that result. Without an amendment, any gay marriage from any state must be given legitimacy by every other state.

Saturday night, Obama’s charm failed to mask his humorlessness. McCain’s comparative charm deficit (“You know, by a strange coincidence I was not elected ‘Miss Congeniality’ in the United States Senate this year. I don't know why”) didn’t mask his sense of humor.

Asked to name a changed position, McCain gently mocked California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger by saying his new-found support for offshore drilling wouldn’t be popular with many people “here in Caleefornia.” Talking about how America needs to build more nuclear power plants, McCain said that America likes to imitate the French. Most endearingly to those of us who cannot resist poking fun at the genetically disagreeable French, McCain said, “…and by the way if you hadn't noticed we now have a pro-American president of France which proves if you live long enough anything can happen in America.”

McCain scored a lot of points with conservatives in the Saturday night forum. His performance was so strong, and if he chooses to capitalize on it, this could be a tipping point for McCain.

His next opportunity to take a big step along that path will be the choice of his running mate. Choosing a strong conservative (Fred Thompson? Mike Pence?) to run with him, McCain could energize and unite Republicans for the remainder of this campaign. 2008 need not be a disaster for Republicans. The decisions that could prove the doomsayers wrong are not above John McCain’s pay grade.


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KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; babbin; mccain; obama; praise; rickwarren; saddleback
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To: SMARTY
If you mean by ‘answers’ “Personal Conviction” (that old fashioned virtue) then, yes ... he had the answers ahead of time. What mature adult, who's spent a lifetime in public service would NOT have a few things worked out by now? All his answers are a reflection of his mental furniture, the stuff he thinks about daily and lives with.

McCain has been doing townhall meetings all during this campaign and before. No doubt he has been asked every question in every way possible. So it is both his personal life experiences plus his being previously familiar with those types of questions that made his answers come so quickly, so easily and so clearly.

21 posted on 08/18/2008 6:50:16 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Obama and Osama have in common? Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: library user

It was typical smarmy lib-speak. It came out of his mouth as naturally as “I voted for it before I voted against it.”


22 posted on 08/18/2008 6:56:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BamaDi
I was at a Republican event Saturday where Col Bud Day spoke about his friendship with his (as he put it)”former cellmate when we were in jail”

This reminds me of the 2004 campaign. One of the things that I dislike about McCain is his failure to support the Swift Boat Vets in 2004 and failure to criticize Kerry for his lies/exaggerations/etc. Maybe it's his association in the Senate all those years with the Democrats that makes him unable to critically see not only how wrong their positions are but how personally corrupt they are.

23 posted on 08/18/2008 6:59:03 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Obama and Osama have in common? Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: CedarDave
Well, it's pretty easy to be focused when you do NOT approach every question and media event as a golden opportunity to revise your 'opinion' so your image mirrors the latest poll results or to pander to yet another BS splinter of public opinion ... fabricated by the MSM this morning!
24 posted on 08/18/2008 7:00:13 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: TexasNative2000
I completely agree with your wife. Obama was a shifty-eyed snake, weighing the response to his every word, always ready to shift his rhetoric to play to the crowd. Women see through that kind of stuff in an instant. A new kind of politician, indeed. He's an actor. He's worse than most politicos at pandering to whomever he is speaking and trying to make himself one of them, only better.

I ignored Obama Who? for a long time, but in the first speech of his I heard, he was proclaiming that "the culture wars are over," implying that the liberals had won, and as though saying it would magically make it true. The questions Rick Warren asked, and the reaction of the audience, makes it clear the culture wars rage on. I can only pray that McCain is as principled a president as he was as an interviewee at Saddleback.

25 posted on 08/18/2008 7:01:12 AM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: TexasNative2000
I completely agree with your wife. Obama was a shifty-eyed snake, weighing the response to his every word, always ready to shift his rhetoric to play to the crowd. Women see through that kind of stuff in an instant. A new kind of politician, indeed. He's an actor. He's worse than most politicos at pandering to whomever he is speaking and trying to make himself one of them, only better.

I ignored Obama Who? for a long time, but in the first speech of his I heard, he was proclaiming that "the culture wars are over," implying that the liberals had won, and as though saying it would magically make it true. The questions Rick Warren asked, and the reaction of the audience, makes it clear the culture wars rage on. I can only pray that McCain is as principled a president as he was as an interviewee at Saddleback.

26 posted on 08/18/2008 7:01:15 AM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: informavoracious

Sorry for the *hiccup* double post.


27 posted on 08/18/2008 7:02:33 AM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: Teacher317

Not much of a difference? And you are a teacher? Just how did you measure the difference between the two candidates to come to that faulty conclusion?


28 posted on 08/18/2008 7:07:55 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: sageb1

3 a.m. phone calls are clearly above Obama’s pay grade. His finger has no business whatever near the button.


29 posted on 08/18/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by informavoracious (Drill Here, Drill Now!)
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To: SMARTY
Well, it's pretty easy to be focused when you do NOT approach every question and media event as a golden opportunity to revise your 'opinion' so your image mirrors the latest poll results or to pander to yet another BS splinter of public opinion ... fabricated by the MSM this morning!

That's for sure! Kerry was more of an expert at that than is Obama -- look at how many more years JFnK had to practice equivocation!

30 posted on 08/18/2008 7:12:25 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Obama and Osama have in common? Both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: SMARTY
"kind of idiot"

The thing is Obama's supporters have convinced themselves, as they always do, that by virtue of being a liberal, he's a genius...just like they are. Conversely to libs all Republicans, even moderates like McCain, are little more than subhumans. Therefore it should be an easy task for a super-genius/savior like Obama to mop the floor with an old, crusty, troglodyte like McCain. And then the reverse happened which even the ultra-lefties on DummyU and other lib places noticed. McCain made Obama look like the naive, fool that he is. More and more Obama is looking like Robert Redford's character in "The Candidate." What will they do now?

31 posted on 08/18/2008 7:15:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I think the presidential debates are now pointless.

No dinosaur media reporter can do ANYTHING to compare.


32 posted on 08/18/2008 7:17:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: shankbear
That idiot Drive-by Andrea Mitchell is the one who spread and started the rumor that McCain got the questions ahead of time, she is so rat infested and biased she should just retire and give big al a warm bath.
33 posted on 08/18/2008 7:19:13 AM PDT by rodguy911 (LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE)
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To: shankbear
They whine that Rick Warren lied and that McCain might have had the questions ahead of time.

I saw Warren on the news. He said that he gave both candidates a list of TOPICS that he would ask them about but not the specific questions on those topics. So they knew they would be asked about taxes, moral issues, abortion, etc.

He also said they both knew the first question.

I have no reason to disbelieve him.

34 posted on 08/18/2008 7:24:54 AM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: sageb1

Scene: Night, Whitehouse bedroom

Closeup, digital clock face, 2:59

Pull back as phone beside clock rings

A hand snakes out from under blankets to answer phone, and fumbles around on night table. Knocking over clock, glass of water, finally settling on handset.

Receiver is lifted and pulled under blankets.

Muffled voice: Hu-hu-hu-hello?
Distorted voice from handset sounds agitated
Muffled voice: Wh-Wh-Whu-What?
Distorted voice from handset sounds even more agitated
Muffled voice: Uh-ummm, well, umm...Who did you s-s-say you are?
Distorted voice now has that very deliberate quality to it
Muffled voice: That’s above my pay grade. Good night, Mr Ambassador.
Phone hangs up


35 posted on 08/18/2008 7:26:01 AM PDT by Weya
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To: Weya

Sorry for posting to myself...but I thought of a better ending to my commercial above.

Scene cutaway to American Ambassador in any Middle Eastern country, looking out window as “students” (a la James Earl Carter’s defining moment) scramble over embassy wall.


36 posted on 08/18/2008 7:29:12 AM PDT by Weya
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To: shankbear

The smear about McCain getting the questions beforehand, seems to be gaining traction. His campaign needs to stomp on it most forcefully.
Obama actually said at one point in the Saddleback interview that he (Obama) cheated, implying that he knew the questions beforehand. Yet the MSM is trying to smear McCain, because he did better. Maybe they’d like to examine the coin they flipped, too.


37 posted on 08/18/2008 7:31:44 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

According to the DummieFunnies on here, the DU is having a meltdown on their site with ‘the Messiah’s’ poor showing!! :-)


38 posted on 08/18/2008 7:34:20 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Population Connection - 100% Support (These are the ‘Zero Growth’ freaks)

I wonder if he sterilized his kids yet. I mean, if he wants 'zero population growth', he should - and BAN ILLEGALS!!!

39 posted on 08/18/2008 7:38:01 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
"In answer to the same question, the best Obama could do was to claim his decision to oppose the war in Iraq was his toughest. How that was a gut-wrenching decision he didn’t explain."

This a duplicitous answer inasmuch as he was not in the Senate when that so-called tough decision was made but, rather, was in the IL state legislature. Another ad for an independent group since McCain probably won't do it.

40 posted on 08/18/2008 7:42:51 AM PDT by MarkT
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