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Interesting article on a well known economist who supposedly predicted the recent mortgage and hedgefund collapse.

Simple enough summary that we all can understand:

"The United States, Roubini went on, will likely muddle through the crisis but will emerge from it a different nation, with a different place in the world. “Once you run current-account deficits, you depend on the kindness of strangers,” he said, pausing to let out a resigned sigh. “This might be the beginning of the end of the American empire.”

1 posted on 08/18/2008 5:53:16 AM PDT by txzman
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To: txzman

1980’s recycled BS.

1999 we were all doomed. Can’t tell HOW MANY were beating the drumbeat about the mortgage and credit crunch.

By this standard there are more than a few ecconomists on FR who beat this guy’s “predictions” solid.

(for those in rio linda: WEEERRRRE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!)


2 posted on 08/18/2008 6:01:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: txzman

This nation has become morally bankrupt and that, more than the economics, will be the end of us, the economics is just a symptom.


3 posted on 08/18/2008 6:02:15 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: txzman
“We are in a recession, and denying it is nonsense,” he said. When Jim Nussle, the White House budget director, announced last month that the nation had “avoided a recession,” Roubini was incredulous.

Evidently, Roubini doesn't want to be bothered by unwelcome facts.

And BTW, don't depend on the kindness of strangers. It didn't work for Blanche, and it won't work for the U.S.A.

Don't depend on the opinions of those who don't want to be bothered by facts either.

4 posted on 08/18/2008 6:02:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The ruling Chinese oligarchy is the envy of the American Left.)
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To: txzman
He laid out a bleak sequence of events: homeowners defaulting on mortgages, trillions of dollars of mortgage-backed securities unraveling worldwide and the global financial system shuddering to a halt.

And don't forget GLOBAL WARMING

6 posted on 08/18/2008 6:31:45 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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“When the economist Anirvan Banerji delivered his response to Roubini’s talk, he noted that Roubini’s predictions did not make use of mathematical models and dismissed his hunches as those of a career naysayer.”

Yes, a career naysayer. The man, who more than likely has been predicting this for years and finally something materialized. It’s like predicting rain....6 months later it rains...and some retarded journalist declares you an authority on the weather. Typical Times.


7 posted on 08/18/2008 6:52:39 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: txzman

Any given outcome to any given situation, you’ll always find SOMEONE who “predicted” it, that’s just the “law of big numbers”. It’s easy to say “why didn’t we listen to him” with 10-10 hindsight, but we forget there were just as many economists predicting a smooth ride through the sub-prime upset 18 months ago.


10 posted on 08/18/2008 7:39:43 AM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: txzman

1934, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1935, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1936, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1937, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1938, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1939, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1940, “Hitler IS conquering the world!!!!!”

“Oh, you’ve just been saying that all along! Say something long enough and of course it’s going to be right, you doom and gloomer.”

So Roubini predicts economic calamity based on continual mass debt building up year after year. The government keeps pulling out the stops to DELAY the day of reckoning. Because the calamity that should have occurred in the absence of massive government intervention takes years more to come about, he is accused of “always being so gloomy and being wrong so long and if thing are bad it is just because he said the same thing so long.”

Right. Some people are clueless.

Like the market, the economy always does what it is supposed to do, just not when it is supposed to do it. Especially when the government is pulling out the stops to prevent it, leading to years or even decades of delay, but increasing the threshold of pain. When he finally is right, it ain’t gonna be pleasant.


12 posted on 08/18/2008 5:42:51 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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1934, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1935, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1936, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1937, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1938, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1939, “Hitler is a madman, he will try to conquer the world.”

1940, “Hitler IS conquering the world!!!!!”

“Oh, you’ve just been saying that all along! Say something long enough and of course it’s going to be right, you doom and gloomer.”

So Roubini predicts economic calamity based on continual mass debt building up year after year. The government keeps pulling out the stops to DELAY the day of reckoning. Because the calamity that should have occurred in the absence of massive government intervention takes years more to come about, he is accused of “always being so gloomy and being wrong so long and if thing are bad it is just because he said the same thing so long.”

Right. Some people are clueless.

Like the market, the economy always does what it is supposed to do, just not when it is supposed to do it. Especially when the government is pulling out the stops to prevent it, leading to years or even decades of delay, but increasing the threshold of pain. When he finally is right, it ain’t gonna be pleasant.


13 posted on 08/18/2008 5:43:03 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: txzman

Does any one have a good link to an article that refutes the prediction that we are headed to a depression?


15 posted on 08/18/2008 8:00:03 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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