Posted on 08/17/2008 4:32:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81
I find that people who flaunt it that much are really NOT hott.
Legends in their own mind.
You wrote:
“1. Buc complained that child support is essentially whatever women want to spend it on....due to his experience. Not only is that another of many slams he’s made against women in this thread, he’s hardly a victim here.”
1. But who are you to judge that he isn’t a victim? He said his wife cheated on him. She wanted the divorce. He didn’t. Now he has no say in his child’s life and he has to pay support OUTSIDE his household and he has no say in how it is spent. How is he NOT a victim here?
Tell me, seriously, if your husband cheated on you, divorced you against your will, and got complete custody of the kids and child support, would you feel like a victim? I bet you would. Who wouldn’t?
2) I don’t think Buc is complaining about women across the board, but he is complaining about bias towards women in our legal system. And he has a point. Women are favored in custody battles. Everyone knows this. Everyone. Also, his original point is absolutely sound: why should a 15 year old boy be paying any money to the woman who - according to the law - raped him?
“If he wants a say in how someone else runs their household, then he needs to find a way to be a part of it otherwise it’s none of his business.”
It’s his child too. He didn’t want the divorce. She did. You keep ignoring that fact. How can he “find a way to be a part of it” when his wife refused to allow him to do so? Remember, she wanted the divorce. He didn’t.
“2.Buc made several comments against women in this thread and like it or not, women are a part of this forum.”
Women are part of this forum. So is Buc. You made several completely unfair and unwarranted comments against Buc - attacking him personally - while he had not addressed any toward you until you attacked him. Why bother doing that? What good is going to be accomplished with that approach? Also, Buc certainly did not make any anti-women comments before you post in #36. If he did after that I didn’t see it.
“Poor arguments combined with inane generalizations about groups of people probably won’t bring you any peace. LOL”
Perhaps not, but attacking a man as if he was at fault when you know NOTHING first hand about the situation will be better? How so?
“3.If Buc isn’t able to handle the consequences of his poorly thought through opinions, then maybe someone could lend him a clue.”
Are you sure you have a clue to lend? 1) You clearly know nothing about Buc’s case so how can you act so presumptively about it? 2) You seem completely unfamiliar with the basic facts of how most custody cases go in court. 3) You seem completely unfamiliar with the fact that our family court system is dominated by left wing inspired feminist appraisals of men that severely limit the parental rights of fathers. 4) You apparently can’t even see how you’re acting. 5) Honey works better than what you’re shelling out doesn’t it? Don’t you think you would be more successful in getting your point across if you treated him like a decent person rather than mocking him as if his failed marriage was his fault (when you have no CLUE what happened!)?
I’m just saying...
She never offered him one of her own clues.
She said then maybe someone could lend him a clue.
I'm sure if she had one of her own, she'd share...
Given the choice, I prefer blessed cluelessness...;-)
Yes they have.
And you know there has been a hearing on custody because....? Or are you unaware of the practice that mothers of illegitimate children generally are the ones who take the children home after they are born?
It's amazing how otherwise intelligent people can be so completely brainwashed by certain arbitrary social mores that the response is almost Pavlovian. Sad state of affairs if you ask me....
Yup, that's pretty much my story too...only in my case, I only had to pay child support for a few years because the bitch, I mean, my lovely ex wife, signed my name to adoption papers and legally changed the name on my daughters birth certificate. That's when she was six years old. I didn't see her again until she was 22, and we have a very strained relationship because of it.
Anyway, not trying to bash women here, but it sure does feel good to get that off my chest in public...
Keep the faith.
I see you’re from MA. I grew up there. Needham High Grad, ‘81. I also lived in Natick, Framingham, Saugus and Springfield before I finally left in ‘91.
I graduated from Central Catholic in Lawrence (about the only good thing in that God forsaken city)and grew up in Methuen. My brother has finally had enough and he plans on moving to Maine the next few years. New Hampshire is just Massachusetts north so going there really doesn't solve much. I probably won't be far behind him. I'm pretty much fed up myself. I've got relatives in South Carolina so that's an option too.
Interestingly enough, repeal of the state income is up for a vote. It's a waste of time as far as I'm concerned because the state legislature will never abide by it. They'll do what they did the last time we voted to decrease the tax: have a closed door session and pass a law to subvert it. Besides, how does anybody think they're going to pay for the BIG DIG.
I’m so sorry. I’m VERY sorry. I would never have done that to my ex, never, ever ever.
I hate it when women do that to their husbands. I don’t and can’t understand it.
“This boy got him self into this, now he has to pay for this”
Tell me, please, how the boy “got him self (sic) into this”.
A fifteen year old PERSON can’t sign a contract, can’t legally drive (on the highways), can’t buy cigarettes, can’t buy alcohol, can’t vote, can’t declare themselves emancipated, and can’t join the military.
The laws are in effect to protect minors who have not fully learned proper judgement.
Had the genders been reversed, would you feel the same way?
“and not blame the girl because she got pregnant.”
Not blaming the girl for getting pregnant. Blaming the WOMAN for having sex with a MINOR.
See the difference?
I finished paying child support about four years ago. My son lives with me now. Ironically, because I have a pretty common name, every couple of years the County of Los Angeles likes to try and garnish my wages for a woman I do not know and children I did not sire. All because of my name. Heck, I haven’t lived in California since 1984 and I’ve never lived south of Placer County. The burden of proof is for me to prove that I am who I say I am, and I have no legal recourse to sue the County for relief of this pattern of ongoing harassment.
Setting aside the fact that my ex was a sexual deviant who was not above incest and prostituition, and a drug addict, and who slunk out of town while I was deployed overseas; wherever would I get the idea that child support is a government-sponsored scam to punish men? Is accountablility too much to ask for? Why is it that she doesn’t get taxed on the income she receives from me, yet she gets to claim it as income for the purposes of getting credit?
No, she doesn’t. A couple of posters on this thread hold the female blameless for her sexual encounters. All that matters is that men must be punished.
There is a rather large number of good decent men that have been totally destroyed by evil women. The man can do nothing but bend over and take it. The laws do not protect them from this abuse. Something needs to change.
Well there are also a large number of women who have been destroyed by evil men! It doesn’t flow just one way, although you of course do have a difficult story.
I do believe that my story would make you shiver, it’s so bad.
So remember, there are evil people, not just evil women.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.