Posted on 08/17/2008 4:32:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81
Nope. I figured you didn't get out much.
Hey, Dandelion? You have made some pretty tasteless personal attacks on this thread. How about knocking it off? Do you really want the mods brought in?
Let me remind you two the payment is 50 dollars a month.
Naw, just the way to preserve ones sanity....and bank account
You wrote:
“Why should I go to another thread when this one’s just fine?”
If you think this thread is fine, I’d love to see your example of one gone bad.
“I’m not beating Buc anymore than he’s been willing to dish out to others.”
I don’t think that’s what’s happening. You are attacking him. So far you’ve basically told him his wife cheated because he didn’t measure up, he should have no right to be in his child’s life, and so on. Now, I read through the posts and between you and Buc you CLEARLY started anything that could be called inappropriate when you said this in post #36: “If you want a say in how child support is spent...why aren’t you with the mother of your children?”
Your presumption there is, well, breathtaking. I think Buc has handled himself well here. Even if you disagree with his opinions, did you have to be presumptive?
“If he can’t handle the same....maybe he should reconsider his posts.”
Can’t handle the same? Again, you asked that rather presumptive question in post 36. I just scanned the posts before that and saw nothing that Buc said that warranted any comment of that nature. He did say he was speaking from experience, but at that point he had not told you why he was not with his wife. And when he did, you made the incredibly insensitive comment that you keep your spouse happy - as if Buc was responsible for his wife cheating on him.
I’m not looking for an argument with you, but where to you get off making such presumptive comments about someone you don’t know and who clearly had said little to nothing for you to go on? Weren’t you just shooting completely in the dark? Not only have you apparently concluded it’s all his fault, but you almost seem to find pleasure in the fact that Buc has suffered. Is that what a normal person would do? Is it normal to mock people over failed marriages when they were the spouse cheated on?
The boy is a minor,could not legally consent to sexual activity with an adult, and he's being punished. He should be paying NOTHING.
You wrote:
“Well...you have a point. He’s blaming women and socialists. All those evil people that are just out to get him. LOL”
You’re misrepresenting what he said. Buc pointed out that women routinely get custody and child support through the courts. That’s just a fact. And he’s also right that the left - socialists or whatever - are the ones who created that fact. The left created and made pervasive the idea that men are worse parents, automatically lean toward being abusive, are all wannabe rapists and molestors, etc. With all that in mind, and having actually read Buc’s comments, I don’t think he is doing what you’re saying he is at all.
You seem to think he is blaming people in a paranoid way. I think he is upset at the fact that women usually get what they demand in court no matter what the men say or do. And let’s face it, this is because of a feminist dominance in out political and legal structures. And feminism is an outgrowth of socialism. Buc is not blaming “All those evil people” in some paranoid way. He is looking at the situation and seeing the obvious: women usually get what they demand in court, and they get it because feminism is a dominant accepted philosophy in our legal system.
Years ago I might have thought like you do. I then read a book called The Myth of Male Power which was written by Warren Farrell a male member of the national directorate for the National Organization for Women. It was eye opening to say the least. And he was a feminist.
My heart goes out to you guys. It’s a dirty little secret that half the men who end up paying the piper vis a vis child support, alimony, and loss of assets were the innocent parties. No fault divorce is a travesty. Fault should be assigned, co-respondents should be named, and the party in the wrong should lose custody and gain nothing.
My heart goes out to you guys. It’s a dirty little secret that half the men who end up paying the piper vis a vis child support, alimony, and loss of assets were the innocent parties. No fault divorce is a travesty. Fault should be assigned, co-respondents should be named, and the party in the wrong should lose custody and gain nothing.
That's only because he's a fifteen year old with zero income, and the fifty bucks is merely a token minimum. Would the principle of the thing change for you if he finished college, got a good job, and had to pay a thousand bucks a month to her in ten years?
This lawsuit is not about the amount he has to pay, this is about the welfare of the child conceived in this situation. Since she let it be born, she then subjects her life to the reality that the courts are often honor bound to look out for the best interests of the child, now that it is deemed a person by the court system of this land.
2.Buc made several comments against women in this thread and like it or not, women are a part of this forum. Poor arguments combined with inane generalizations about groups of people probably won't bring you any peace. LOL
3.If Buc isn't able to handle the consequences of his poorly thought through opinions, then maybe someone could lend him a clue.
The best solution (based on the facts reported in the story) would seem to be granting custody to the boy’s parents, if they are found to be fit.
That little nugget of truth was imparted to me by a domestic court magistrate here in Franklin County, Ohio.
If you are referring to your inane comments as "the consequences," rest assured, I'm doing fine. But thanks for your concern.
Well in that case...it must be Gospel.
Wait! I thought that questioning their fitness was....prejudiced!
Someone outside her own household??? He’s the child’s FATHER, not some interfering busybody who confuses sex with her husband with a parent’s proper role
Based on the information in the article, you painted the boy's parents as being equally as bad as the girl's family, when there was nothing in the story to back up that assertion. On the contrary, it was clearly stated that the child is residing in a household with a convicted domestic abuser.
As a matter of due diligence, of course a court is going to review the fitness of any potential custodians of the child. That's what I was referring to.
I don't know about Tennessee law, but in California it is FORBBIDEN to even ask where even so much as one penny of the child support money is going.
The courts really really really don't want to be in the middle of that pissing match!
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