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Vatican: Pope makes fur fly over revival of ermine robes
Guardian.co.uk ^ | 6/14/08 | Tom Kington

Posted on 08/17/2008 3:54:39 AM PDT by Dawnsblood

Pope Benedict's fondness for fur trim on his hats and capes has come under fire from an Italian animal rights group, which has launched an online petition to persuade the pontiff to switch to synthetics.

Benedict has taken a traditional approach to papal formal wear to match his conservative views on liturgy and theology, reviving the camauro, an ermine-trimmed red velvet hat favoured by 17th-century popes and last worn by Pope John XXIII in the 1960s, as well as donning a cape trimmed with ermine, which is the white winter coat of the stoat.

But his use of ermine, long favoured by kings, judges and nobles, has drawn the ire of the Italian Association for the Defence of Animals and the Environment, which had by yesterday gathered 2,260 signatures for its petition. "The pope has often talked about protecting the environment and we are asking that he acknowledges that animals, as God's creation, also deserve respect," said the organisation's head, Lorenzo Croce.

Benedict's use of fur was defended yesterday by Cardinal Andrea Cordero Lanza di Montezemolo. "Aren't there more important battles to wage?" he asked. "There are human beings who merit more urgent assistance that no one is taking care of. And if we eat animals, we can wear them."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animalrights; animalwhackos; catholic; fur; pope; stoats; vatican
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1 posted on 08/17/2008 3:54:39 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood
Respecting God's animals does not mean not eating or wearing them. God was pretty unequivocal when He granted man dominion over them. The PITA poopers should go pound sand. My pope can wear what he wants to.
2 posted on 08/17/2008 4:19:53 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Dawnsblood

“The pope has often talked about protecting the environment and we are asking that he acknowledges that animals, as God’s creation, also deserve respect,”

You can wear the fur of an animal species and still respect it.

In fact, in the modern era where many animals are going extinct. It is the lucky animals that we respect enough to eat and wear that are assured continued existence. You can bet cows and chickens won’t go extinct. Not all animals can hope to be so lucky.


3 posted on 08/17/2008 5:04:39 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The LORD.)
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To: Dawnsblood

There are a lot of things in the Catholic Church which need attention before the Pope chooses which hat to wear.
This is akin to “fiddling while Rome Burns”.

If these Vatican Vapids continue on the same path there will be no Catholics left when they wake up.


4 posted on 08/17/2008 5:32:04 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Dawnsblood
The highest and best use for a weasel in winter coat is to trim the Pope's garments.

(Have these whining PETA types ever actually MET a weasel? Nasty little things (PETAs AND weasels!)

5 posted on 08/17/2008 5:33:15 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Dawnsblood
Doesn't make any difference to me...The pope can wear silk robes sewn with gold thread for all I care...He can have prescious jewels glued and sewn into his robes...I don't care...

The pope can have people kiss his holy ring and bow at his fee, I don't care...

But I have to wonder what the Apostle Peter and God think about it...

6 posted on 08/17/2008 5:51:26 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Iscool

fee=feet


7 posted on 08/17/2008 5:52:26 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Stoat

fur ping


8 posted on 08/17/2008 6:07:54 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Dawnsblood
Pope Benedict's fondness for fur trim on his hats and capes has come under fire from an Italian animal rights group, ... has taken a traditional approach to papal formal wear ... reviving the camauro, an ermine-trimmed red velvet hat
Ermine: Theses whiny people need a hobby.

[Is that a Polecat in your pants, or are you just happy to see me]

9 posted on 08/17/2008 6:51:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: chatham

The Church would be better off with a lot fewer Catholics(CINOs).


10 posted on 08/17/2008 7:03:39 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Iscool

You sound like Judas whining about the cost of spikenard.


11 posted on 08/17/2008 7:06:56 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Dawnsblood
Stoats are mean. I know. I learned it from reading The Wind in the Willows.
12 posted on 08/17/2008 7:09:11 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . ki lo' `al-halechem levaddo yichyeh ha'adam, ki `al-kol-motza' fi-HaShem yichyeh ha'adam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Did you say Stoats?

(Fade in on ordinary interview set. Interviewer sitting with man with large Semitic (Jewish) polystyrene nose.)
Interviewer: Good evening. I have with me in the studio tonight one of Britain’s leading skin specialists - Raymond Luxury Yacht.

Raymond: That’s not my name.

Interviewer: I’m sorry - Raymond Luxury Yach-t.

Raymond: No, no, no - it’s spelt Raymond: Luxury Yach-t, but it’s pronounced ‘Stoatwobbler Mangrove’.

Interviewer: You’re a very silly man and I’m not going to interview you.

Raymond: Ah, anti-semitism!

Interviewer: Not at all. It’s not even a proper nose. (takes it off) It’s polystyrene.

Raymond: Give me my nose back.

Interviewer: You can collect it at reception. Now go away.

Raymond: I want to be on the television.

Interviewer: Well you can’t.


13 posted on 08/17/2008 7:12:48 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: chatham

You are incorrect. This stuff is more important than you realize. Now, since you’re obviously not Catholic, I don’t suppose that you would understand, but the Pope is, through many of the things he does, both big things and little things, reviving and restoring the traditions that were largely thrown out in the radical 60s.

He is demonstrating that we are connected to all that came before. This is the “hermeneutic of continuity,” and is at odds with the opinions held by many Catholics from the 60s through the 90s, which held that Vatican II “remade” the Church.


14 posted on 08/17/2008 7:16:02 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: ovrtaxt

Monty Python?


15 posted on 08/17/2008 7:25:55 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . ki lo' `al-halechem levaddo yichyeh ha'adam, ki `al-kol-motza' fi-HaShem yichyeh ha'adam.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
...Nasty little things (PETAs AND weasels!)

LOL!!

16 posted on 08/17/2008 7:54:47 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Stoat
Stoats are mean.

It is polite to ping a referrenced FReeper to a post, especially when bad-mouthing them!

As I see it, the respect for the animal is in the treatment of the critter while alive, how it is dispatched, and not in how the remains are used, be it for food, leather, feathers, fur, or glue...or to just be rid of a verminouos pest.

17 posted on 08/17/2008 7:55:05 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
You sound like Judas whining about the cost of spikenard.

Or maybe I sound like Superman complaining about the Joker...

Or maybe I'm saying what Jesus said; 'the greatest among you shall become the least'...Or maybe I'm saying what Peter said, 'don't bow to me, I'm just a mere man'...

But what I am actually saying is that your pope resembles no Christian in the Scriptures and definately not any Apostles, especially Peter...

I can just picture Peter and your pope standing side by side...Can you???

18 posted on 08/17/2008 8:05:13 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Iscool

I can just picture the look on your face during and after your particular judgment.


19 posted on 08/17/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: chatham

It’s not the Pope who is being vapid. It is the enviro-nuts in Peta. And your disrespect for his Holiness shows your lack of character as well.


20 posted on 08/17/2008 9:05:02 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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